Specialized P.Street 1 or KHS dj 50?

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Specialized P.Street 1 or KHS dj 50?
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flag biodegraded
Posted: Jun 26, 2014 at 11:51 Quote
I'm a n00b and looking for an entry level dj/street bike. I will also be using this bike for riding around the neighborhood with the kiddies as well as an occasional 5 mile commute to work. So I like the idea of a geared dj bike that I can have fun with on the weekends at the park or the track, but that will be a little more useful for around town riding as well.

So the question, 2013 KHS dj 50 or 2014 Specialized P.Street 1. They are both $600 from the LBS, which is the upper limit of my price range. Yes, I know I'm going to get crap components at this price, but I am new to dj so I don't want to go overboard just yet.

Any advice?
flag cmc4130
Posted: Jun 26, 2014 at 20:25 Quote
My impression of the P.Street is that it's not a true jumper. It's kind of a blend between a casual mtb and a DJ bike.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/2013-Specialized-P-Series-Bike-first-look.html

It doesn't seem to have chain guides which is weird for a geared bike that is actually intended for jumping.

It does have a taller seat tube for a higher seat post option if you are riding across town. On the flip side, you cant get the seat as low for jumping; if you're tall or maybe medium height, you can still probably jump.... although that's personal preference as some people always want the seat super low for jumping.


Both bikes I might question the fork quality. RST had a dud with the Space fork--a lot of people had complaints. SR Suntour is also not considered a favorite DJ fork. That said I haven't ridden either bike.
flag biodegraded
Posted: Jun 27, 2014 at 11:39 Quote
Thanks for the advice, cmc.

It looks like the KHS is also a similar blend of mtb and dj. Or would you say it is more of a true jumper?

Seeing as how I will be using the bike to get from A-B from time to time, I like the idea of a blend. Just hoping it will still be fun at the track as well.

I think I'll go with the Spec unless someone has some compelling evidence against it or for the KHS.
flag cmc4130
Posted: Jun 27, 2014 at 11:45 Quote
You could also look out for a Giant STP.

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Giant Stp Riders Only!
https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=41823&pagenum=229
flag cmc4130
Posted: Jun 27, 2014 at 11:49 Quote
biodegraded wrote:
Thanks for the advice, cmc.

It looks like the KHS is also a similar blend of mtb and dj. Or would you say it is more of a true jumper?

.

The KHS is closer to being a true dirt jumper/4x bike. Basically the lower seat tube (slanting down top tube) and a fork that is more specifically for DJ (although still maybe not the best fork).

http://khsbicycles.com/bikes/2013-khs-models/dj-50/

How tall are you, and how important is having "full leg extension" (like road bike / mtb-xc style)? A lot of BMX'ers and 24" BMX riders still ride miles across town without dirt roadie style leg extension. It's up to you how much seat post you need to raise.

I have a quick release seat post clamp on my Transition Double, which is a 4x/slopestyle bike, and it has pretty DJ-ish geometry. I can raise the post for longer rides, but it's still not cross-country high. I'm 6'1".
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flag cmc4130
Posted: Jun 27, 2014 at 11:53 Quote
Also the NS Bikes Clash1 is pretty cool.

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flag cmc4130
Posted: Jun 27, 2014 at 11:59 Quote
biodegraded wrote:

I think I'll go with the Spec unless someone has some compelling evidence against it . . . .

Heh, I just don't think the new Specialized P.Street is a "cool" bike. The first time I read about it, I thought, you've got to be kidding!!! They took the "P" name and put it on a bike that is not a true P bike. (There was an old 24" wheel P.Street in 2004-2005 that was completely different. So it's also weird that they re-used the name P.Street).

The older Specialized P2 had 1X9 gears. Maybe they figured the market was soft for a hardcore DJ/4x bike with gears, so they went for the crossover market. People who would normally get a Hard Rock, but like the DJ-ish look of the P.Street.

You don't need two front rings to get around town. 1X9 is plenty. Look for a used 4x (4-cross) bike !

Or maybe some kind of All-Mountain/Freeride hardtail like the Transition TransAm 26". The 26" just got discontinued in favor of the 27.5, so you may be able to find a 26" at a good price.

2008 Specialized P2
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flag Bluevapor
Posted: Jul 7, 2014 at 22:40 Quote
I bought the P. Street 1 for the same reasons you were looking at it. Its a decent bike that you can use for all around riding. I've taken it to the DJ, ridden street and trails. I upgraded almost all the components, now I'm looking to get a different frame and transfer over those components. I liked it for what I used it for, which was just a bike I could upgrade until I got the components I wanted, then get a frame I'd really like. It was easier on the wallet that way and I'll have a pretty killer bike when I'm finally done. Its OK at a lot of things, great at none of them. You can easily do your 5 mile ride, as I've done 23 mile rides regularly but it does not pedal like a XC bike, it doesn't jump super well, the seat does get in the way, the fork that comes with it is crap. I threw on a Manitou Circus and that made a day and night difference. The frame has taken a beating so far, and I'm not the lightest guy as I weigh in at 215lbs. Best of luck choosing your bike.
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