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@bjorntsc: they do Eh? do you have a set?

@chasejj: It seems like they are are priced the same as other ODi Grips. and it seems like other people on this forum are keen to buy them. I guess wee will see? I think it is good to be wary of virtue signaling. I would be keen to look out for companies that identify their failures as well as their successes. Also if they identify that they don't have all the answers and that there is more room for improvement. It would likely show that they are engaged in the process and not just ticking the box. It seems like bjorn started out with sustainability as their main statement as opposed to a company that has just tacked it on to their mission statement. That would give me a bit of confidence that there is some credibility there. Ultimately if industry can make something at least incrementally better for the environment. It does not matter a great deal if it is virtue signalling or die hard ethical pioneering. It's good that, as you are doing, people are critical. Being realistic about the limitations of any venture is really valuable. Also being vigilant is important we cant have companies fraudulently claiming green ethics when they are not!

does "priced like they're recycled" mean more expensive because they are more novel/trendy/difficult to produce? - Or less expensive because they are made from left over stuff?

@milkdrop: Oh boy! exactly when was the last good idea humanity had? is the last one documented? have we even had one in the last 10 years? I disagree with that, however you highlight 3 valuable parts to the discussion. Yes absolutely there are energy costs and a whole host of difficult problems to overcome. If it is possible to overcome then you will see a product on the market. If, like you say it could take more energy than it saves then you wont see that product succeed! The article said it was Bjorn's idea, not ODI's, But ODI are making it happen where other producers could not. Also they say they are using post industrial waste, So that means they are using waste material already at the factory (no collecting, No shipping, No raw materials) these grips are significantly more sustainable! Recycling is an Old idea, and its a Good one! the New good idea here is applying the Old Idea to a new industry. So I count this as a good idea weather you consider it a new one or an old one! I'm petty sure we will have more good ideas to! As long as we have people like Bjorn and ODI who are willing to give new ideas a try to find out if they are good or not? then thats good!