Don't read if you're a strong believer of god

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flag Andrei13Street
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 0:21 Quote
I'm sick of people who are so obsessed with jesus/god that they start making their life go around their religion not the other way around. I've met people that will go out of their way to honor this imaginary "god" of theirs. Not only that, but they can't even have a normal conversation. No matter what the subject, they eventually start preaching their bullshit about taking god as your savior. It just gets on my nerves. I have many friends who are religious, but don't try to convert me to their religion. I personally have nothing against religion, it just pisses me off so much when people exaggerate and can't talk about anything other than god or jesus. In other words the way i see it is. Feel free to believe in whatever god you want to believe in, just don't try to make me believe in him/her/it too.

On a more serious note.

Let's make this discussable. If you're religious, what makes you stay religious? I for one was religious too, and enjoyed going to church. This was mostly cause of my grandma (RIP). I also had respect for the church at one point. Then i went to one of my better friends' funeral, and lost ALL my respect for the church.(I can explain why if anyone is interested.). After that incident i completely stopped believing in god or anything else like that. I don't personally have any sort of explanation for how we came to be, but some things are better left unexplained. Maybe at one point we will know for certain how we came here. If at that point it is proven without any doubt that we are brought here by a "higher force" i will consider going back to religion, but if it is proven that it was something along the lines of evolution i will stay the same.

I could go on, but i'd just be ranting even more. What are some other people's view on this? and please keep this clean enough that it wont get locked.
flag Ulysees
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 8:04 Quote
Just like you instructed I did not read your post.
I suggest you become an animal trainer.
Drawing inference upon your 'topic', it appears you are either
a) social withdrawn
b) anti-social
c) have issues you do not know how to express wholly
d) rebel w/o a clue

Guy, I went through 12 years of private education that was also secular by Religion. Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post. So yeah, I read your post and I have no clue as to whether you are on drugs, lost your 'connection', can't populate your fav street corner to sling dope, or lost your best porno mag.

Know what you might like to do instead of being a negative poser?
Read a book.
There are these places called 'Library'; inside... lots of 'stories'... fill the mind with warm, fuzzy thoughts, and maybe let you (continue?) to educate yourself in this World we ALL live in.
I dunno, I can't prescribe Medication, either.
flag ezekiel
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 8:13 Quote
Andrei13Street wrote:
I'm sick of people who are so obsessed with jesus/god that they start making their life go around their religion not the other way around. I've met people that will go out of their way to honor this imaginary "god" of theirs. Not only that, but they can't even have a normal conversation. No matter what the subject, they eventually start preaching their bullshit about taking god as your savior. It just gets on my nerves. I have many friends who are religious, but don't try to convert me to their religion. I personally have nothing against religion, it just pisses me off so much when people exaggerate and can't talk about anything other than god or jesus. In other words the way i see it is. Feel free to believe in whatever god you want to believe in, just don't try to make me believe in him/her/it too.

Take the words god and jesus and replace them with bikes. Now take the word religion and replace it with cycling. Its pretty rough grammatically but I bet it describes a lot of people on this site. This is because what you're describing is a personality type, the topic may change but the message remains the same. "I enjoy doing this, so you should too". Some people are just born pushers.
flag ezekiel
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 8:19 Quote
Ulysees wrote:
Guy, I went through 12 years of private education that was also secular by Religion. Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post.

So is that a good reason to speak down to him like he's an idiot?

I know I've met people that are all about their religion and anyone who isn't with them is against them essentially.
flag samnation
O+ FL
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 8:37 Quote
I worked with a guy who was heavily religous and he tell me all the time that what I did was against the church and was bad. I respected that because those were preconsived ideas that had been installed in him since birth you can't change someone like that but hell I wanted to.

In my whole honest opinion when I see something like religous camps and children who are forced to see the views of their church as the right and all else as the wrong all I can think is child soldiers.
flag Ulysees
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 9:56 Quote
ezekiel wrote:
Ulysees wrote:
Guy, I went through 12 years of private education that was also secular by Religion. Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post.

So is that a good reason to speak down to him like he's an idiot?

I know I've met people that are all about their religion and anyone who isn't with them is against them essentially.

...said 'bullshit', I recall...
flag Ulysees
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 10:09 Quote
Let me give this some focus;
perhaps dude is just feeling over-run during exchanges and small talk.
Could also be that regardless of what is going on in the world, he respects the sanctity of Marriage (like me...), therefore does not have the perception, social graces, or 'Pimp Boots' found in respective age brackets. I am nearing Pimp 'walkers' and Pimp 'wheelchairs' but that is neither here nor there.
Maybe status in life is an issue; I have been made aware that PINKBIKE is a forum geared torward the younger set.
Dude, you have not even filed a Tax Return with your Revenue Dept. I bet. That alone will make you find God...
Feeling un-big or over-small is part of life.
Language, dialect, and conversation are all gifts to all of us here... those on bikes and those not on bikes. These gifts, much like us and our WORLD are always evolving. Accept it and then feel accepted.

I did not 'talk down' to whomever; but if you ask a stupid question, you get a stupid answer.
flag pbuser214337
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 11:34 Quote
Ulysees wrote:
Just like you instructed I did not read your post.
I suggest you become an animal trainer.
Drawing inference upon your 'topic', it appears you are either
a) social withdrawn
b) anti-social
c) have issues you do not know how to express wholly
d) rebel w/o a clue

Guy, I went through 12 years of private education that was also secular by Religion. Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post. So yeah, I read your post and I have no clue as to whether you are on drugs, lost your 'connection', can't populate your fav street corner to sling dope, or lost your best porno mag.

Know what you might like to do instead of being a negative poser?
Read a book.
There are these places called 'Library'; inside... lots of 'stories'... fill the mind with warm, fuzzy thoughts, and maybe let you (continue?) to educate yourself in this World we ALL live in.
I dunno, I can't prescribe Medication, either.

After reading this and the posts you provided in the other "religion" thread, I am really coming to the belief that you, Ulysess, try to parade yourself as an intellectually enlightened person by using words and language in a way that constantly alludes to whatever hidden (and undoubtly non-existant or at the very best weak) context your ideas rely on. You seem to meet most ideas with the accusation that the person is "socially withdrawn". That's your little one size fits all buzzphrase - yet you seem to struggle to elaborate beyond the phrase. It's just a smart sounding psychology-esque term which you throw in hoping it'll fool people into not questioning your.... I was going to write thinking, but I'm not sure I would even call it that.

The akwardness which your painfully convaluted and at times completely uninteligable ideas present themselves is often only matched by your appalling grammar and mastery of the English language. To quote just one example from this above post

Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post.


You do realise that this sentence is not grammatically sound, don't you? did animate is merely the past tense of to do with the verb (of which form is indiscernible from the given verb phrase) animate. You need to form the past tense - animated (if you're referring to the act of him writing/constructing his sentences/ideas) or the present tense animate (if you are referring to the general, overall idea itself) and any form of the verb do is redundant as the doing is already implied by the verb animate. Perhaps before suggesting someone reads a book (in a thoroughly condescending, caviler manner) you should perhaps examine the state of your own level of education.
flag Ulysees
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 12:51 Quote
meh- wrote:
Ulysees wrote:
Just like you instructed I did not read your post.
I suggest you become an animal trainer.
Drawing inference upon your 'topic', it appears you are either
a) social withdrawn
b) anti-social
c) have issues you do not know how to express wholly
d) rebel w/o a clue

Guy, I went through 12 years of private education that was also secular by Religion. Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post. So yeah, I read your post and I have no clue as to whether you are on drugs, lost your 'connection', can't populate your fav street corner to sling dope, or lost your best porno mag.

Know what you might like to do instead of being a negative poser?
Read a book.
There are these places called 'Library'; inside... lots of 'stories'... fill the mind with warm, fuzzy thoughts, and maybe let you (continue?) to educate yourself in this World we ALL live in.
I dunno, I can't prescribe Medication, either.

After reading this and the posts you provided in the other "religion" thread, I am really coming to the belief that you, Ulysess, try to parade yourself as an intellectually enlightened person by using words and language in a way that constantly alludes to whatever hidden (and undoubtly non-existant or at the very best weak) context your ideas rely on. You seem to meet most ideas with the accusation that the person is "socially withdrawn". That's your little one size fits all buzzphrase - yet you seem to struggle to elaborate beyond the phrase. It's just a smart sounding psychology-esque term which you throw in hoping it'll fool people into not questioning your.... I was going to write thinking, but I'm not sure I would even call it that.

The akwardness which your painfully convaluted and at times completely uninteligable ideas present themselves is often only matched by your appalling grammar and mastery of the English language. To quote just one example from this above post

Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post.


You do realise that this sentence is not grammatically sound, don't you? did animate is merely the past tense of to do with the verb (of which form is indiscernible from the given verb phrase) animate. You need to form the past tense - animated (if you're referring to the act of him writing/constructing his sentences/ideas) or the present tense animate (if you are referring to the general, overall idea itself) and any form of the verb do is redundant as the doing is already implied by the verb animate. Perhaps before suggesting someone reads a book (in a thoroughly condescending, caviler manner) you should perhaps examine the state of your own level of education.

I'm sorry...
flag pbuser214337
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 13:00 Quote
Ulysees wrote:
I'm sorry...

Oh, it's fine.

You're free to write whatever you want.

I just need to remember to ignore your posts because they draw me into a state of mind where (after (often) struggling, and subsequently failing, to meet your notions/opinions halfway) I feel that I am to blame for not understanding what you write about, when really the inadequacy is on your part, because you are (often) incapable of writing a clearly structured sentence which is based upon a clearly conceived thought.
flag Ulysees
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 13:10 Quote
Absolutely.
Let everyone fart, and kick their heels three times merrily in your Honor.
flag Andrei13Street
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 13:36 Quote
Ulysees wrote:
Just like you instructed I did not read your post.
I suggest you become an animal trainer.
Drawing inference upon your 'topic', it appears you are either
a) social withdrawn
b) anti-social
c) have issues you do not know how to express wholly
d) rebel w/o a clue

Guy, I went through 12 years of private education that was also secular by Religion. Not once did anyone ever sit and have exchanges like you did animate in your post. So yeah, I read your post and I have no clue as to whether you are on drugs, lost your 'connection', can't populate your fav street corner to sling dope, or lost your best porno mag.

Know what you might like to do instead of being a negative poser?
Read a book.
There are these places called 'Library'; inside... lots of 'stories'... fill the mind with warm, fuzzy thoughts, and maybe let you (continue?) to educate yourself in this World we ALL live in.
I dunno, I can't prescribe Medication, either.

So tell me this much. You said you didn't read the post right? well then how dare you even think that i am any of the things you listed? as a matter fact, i'm none of those. I have plenty of friends, i meet more people every single day, which i also get along with.

The word rebel doesn't even come close to what i'm like. I am by no means a rebel, however i'm also not afraid to express my opinion (which is what i did in the first post). If that makes me a "rebel" then so be it.

Before you go talking shit about anyone think about it. Two paragraphs of ranting doesn't properly express my personality. You think you're so smart simply because of your age and your so called "experience', however from your post, all i can hear is a stuck up, outcast, who is scarred from his past. This is conclusion is not drawn from just 2 paragraphs, but rather from all your posts on this thread. Make up your mind, and hold your position. Don't try to show me off simply because i'm younger, and therefore (in your eyes), am not bright. Experience means a lot, and you don't have the experience i have. I have lived for most my life in a third world country where everything is corrupt and messed up.

Simply put. You're an idiot, that tries to act smart simply because of his age. You overestimate your intelligence. If anyone dares speak their opinion, and if it so happens that the opinion isn't one that's shared by you, you automatically assume that they are socially withdrawn.

Please excuse the grammar mistakes, but english isn't my first languange, and i haven't been getting much rest lately.
flag grantorino
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 13:58 Quote
I moved this from the of topic forum, as this is where it belongs. keep a lid on the personal attacks and it will stay open, if there is any amount of name calling or attacks it will be locked.

enjoy the debate, keep it civil please
flag pbuser102331
Posted: Aug 31, 2008 at 14:21 Quote
i think the believe is down to the individual,and if they do or dont believe they shouldnt be bashed for it.

a family member happens to be a vicar but i do not follow it,i also have decided that my children will make there own minds up so have decided not to have them christened,ultimately it is there choice not mine.
flag JokerMachine
Posted: Sep 13, 2008 at 9:11 Quote
meh- wrote:
After reading this and the posts you provided in the other "religion" thread, I am really coming to the belief that you, Ulysess, try to parade yourself as an intellectually enlightened person by using words and language in a way that constantly alludes to whatever hidden (and undoubtly non-existant or at the very best weak) context your ideas rely on. .....

Perhaps before suggesting someone reads a book (in a thoroughly condescending, caviler manner) you should perhaps examine the state of your own level of education.

Ouch.

Personally, I have read both the Bible and some atheist literature, and tend to think agnosticism is the only way to go. From what I've seen, blind atheism is just as bad as blind faith, because what is atheism but a blind statement that "I don't believe there is a God?"

The sad thing is... I'm baptised, and some of my older family members are religious. I don't want to insult them by acting like I don't like their religion, so I wear my little cross or whatever, but I don't have belief of disbelief, as of yet.
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