My answer to the original question is, when you research and find the part that performs the best and then choose a different part because it's lighter, it's too light. Weight savings is only good when it's not at the detriment of performance. When it's at the detriment of durability than you have to make a personal decision on how often you (not someone else on here) can afford to break stuff. I like grippy, flat resistant tires, lots of suspension, and a full bash ring so 38 lbs seems to be my limit regardless of initial cost.
The socom is marketed as a light frame. I think its about 9 pounds with a ti spring off the top of my head. Its supposed o ride pretty well too.
I think the problem is people expect the bikes to be indestructable to all hucks so when A light one comes out, they go gaga until it snaps and then they slate it. same thing happened with trials frames. I think its a case bikes doing-what-they-say-on-the-tin. People still buy Oranges even though a few people have cracked them because they are light.
Apparently people have started trash talking about the SOCOM for the same reasons. You would have thought ForRaceOnly would give away that the bikes not intended for 20 stone huckers!
The socom is marketed as a light frame. I think its about 9 pounds with a ti spring off the top of my head. Its supposed o ride pretty well too.
I think the problem is people expect the bikes to be indestructable to all hucks so when A light one comes out, they go gaga until it snaps and then they slate it. same thing happened with trials frames. I think its a case bikes doing-what-they-say-on-the-tin. People still buy Oranges even though a few people have cracked them because they are light.
Apparently people have started trash talking about the SOCOM for the same reasons. You would have thought ForRaceOnly would give away that the bikes not intended for 20 stone huckers!
Oranges ain't too lite, wasnt it posted already that with dnx and a ti coil they are 11.87lbs or 12.89lbs or somthing like that?
^^^ There's a MASSIVE argument on ridemonkey about the weight of the Orange frame. I don't know if it was you that posted it Spag, but you/it got a bunch of flack.
no one else showed pics, but a couple of guys from race teams said they weighed theirs before building and they were quite a bit less. Though I'm still curious, I know scales can be off but people with no proof....................who knows.