Get the WTP envy, eclat parts are really good salt are decent aswell WTP frames also have nice geometry they just tend to feel small so make sure you dont get a too small size
i'm gonna order the envy today. was going to get the 20.75 as i'm 5'10" but wondering if i should go the 21.25. we're talking half an inch in the top tube here right? maybe i should go the larger size? i have been riding hardtails for a lot of years after all.......
Get the WTP envy, eclat parts are really good salt are decent aswell WTP frames also have nice geometry they just tend to feel small so make sure you dont get a too small size
i'm gonna order the envy today. was going to get the 20.75 as i'm 5'10" but wondering if i should go the 21.25. we're talking half an inch in the top tube here right? maybe i should go the larger size? i have been riding hardtails for a lot of years after all.......
im 6ft 1 and had the 21.25, personally its too long but its personal preference, i ride a 20.75 and a 21.1 atm and my shorter frame feels better
i guess you can argue between both of them, its pretty much what company you like more:L sunday+odyssey or wethepeople+eclat
Yeah they're about the same. I like both. I'd prolly take the Sunday though since I'm a total Sunday fanboy XD I'm the first to admit it
dont get me wrong sunday and odyssey are shit hot, i run there parts but u have to admit only the higher end sundays are worth the money
Well yeah, but the envy costs At least as much as the high end sundays, so he coulda picked either one lol.
And dude, get the 20.75. 21.25 would be way too long for you at 5'10. I went from a 20.75 to a 21, and it felt about a foot longer. Lol I'm 6 foot by the way
Well im 6'5 and i rock a 21.3 vultus 9'' bars and a flipped stem and it feels perfect for me, but at ur height the 20.75 would make sense i believe but in many cases its a matter of taste if you have some friends who BMX then try their bikes that would help you alot
But if i was as tall as you id still go with the 21.25 for easyer barspins and stuff like that
Well im 6'5 and i rock a 21.3 vultus 9'' bars and a flipped stem and it feels perfect for me, but at ur height the 20.75 would make sense i believe but in many cases its a matter of taste if you have some friends who BMX then try their bikes that would help you alot
But if i was as tall as you id still go with the 21.25 for easyer barspins and stuff like that
but some people i ride with rock a 20.4 frame at 6ft and they can barspin piss?, its all what u get used too and what u feel comfy on
Well im 6'5 and i rock a 21.3 vultus 9'' bars and a flipped stem and it feels perfect for me, but at ur height the 20.75 would make sense i believe but in many cases its a matter of taste if you have some friends who BMX then try their bikes that would help you alot
But if i was as tall as you id still go with the 21.25 for easyer barspins and stuff like that
but some people i ride with rock a 20.4 frame at 6ft and they can barspin piss?, its all what u get used too and what u feel comfy on
fark it's hard to believe 12.5mm could make that much difference. if i hadn't been riding hardtails so long i'd go the 20.75 straight up, just worried about being cramped. either way i'm ordering it in a couple of hours so i'll have made a decision by then
fark it's hard to believe 12.5mm could make that much difference. if i hadn't been riding hardtails so long i'd go the 20.75 straight up, just worried about being cramped. either way i'm ordering it in a couple of hours so i'll have made a decision by then
It really does. But you can get used to anything, so just go with whatever you want
I ride a envy 21.25 tt I'm 6.3 and it feels good to me. The frame has sort of a low stand over but I got used to that, the 2011 envy is probably the closest you can get to a custom complete in a complete bike. The wtp/eclat parts spec is all after market parts my local bmx shop carries(circuit bmx). Good luck with the bike, and have fun with it.
i decided on the larger frame but they don't have any of the larger envy's left anywhere so i'm goin with a fly montana and agua fork with the full envy build kit. the shop i've decided to go with just called me back though and said they're feelin lazy and can give me a fly custom complete for the same price. it will come with:
i decided on the larger frame but they don't have any of the larger envy's left anywhere so i'm goin with a fly montana and agua fork with the full envy build kit. the shop i've decided to go with just called me back though and said they're feelin lazy and can give me a fly custom complete for the same price. it will come with:
done. getting the fly montana frame and agua fork with the envy build kit. would've liked to have the fly bars and pedals but whatever. pretty sure i'm gonna be stoked with this ride still. thanks for everyones input it was all taken on board with this decision. haha, i was gonna buy a 2011 kink apex at the very beginning