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flag whattheheel
Posted: Nov 8, 2013 at 11:06 Quote
Tsoxbhk wrote:
New ADHOC
Pretty much perfect numbers. I am really digging this one.

I like the integrated seat post clamp, I wish more companies would get on that.
flag marxthekittah
Posted: Nov 8, 2013 at 11:08 Quote
whattheheel wrote:
Tsoxbhk wrote:
New ADHOC
Pretty much perfect numbers. I am really digging this one.

I like the integrated seat post clamp, I wish more companies would get on that.
Why is the shock reversed? Seen this done, and really don't know why it is done.
flag brigand
Posted: Nov 8, 2013 at 11:44 Quote
looks like it has some sort of linkage to actuate the shock, someone give us a link to the mfr site
flag tangaroo
Posted: Nov 8, 2013 at 12:11 Quote
Those are hideous, but to each his own. I like the idea of steel, but the graphics make it look cheap. I dunno much about the company either.
flag Tsoxbhk
Posted: Nov 8, 2013 at 13:16 Quote
http://www.xprezo.ca/en/products/enduro/adhoc

They do a whole bunch of different color combos. For me its the Geo numbers over the looks. 76 st with 66.6 ha with a 13.4bb is pretty dialed.
flag PHeller
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Posted: Nov 8, 2013 at 13:54 Quote
http://knollybikes.com/bikes/warden

Knolly launches "Warden" page, just to remind us all they are in fact producing it. Everything else is still a mystery.
flag tangaroo
Posted: Nov 8, 2013 at 16:05 Quote
Tsoxbhk wrote:
http://www.xprezo.ca/en/products/enduro/adhoc

They do a whole bunch of different color combos. For me its the Geo numbers over the looks. 76 st with 66.6 ha with a 13.4bb is pretty dialed.

But when it comes to plopping my cold hard cash, I want something that I like looking at.
flag diego-b
Posted: Nov 9, 2013 at 11:06 Quote
Subbed.
Yeah, the Warden is looking awesome, although if I were shopping I'd go for the Mach 6 or the Lapierre.
The new Enduro Evo, I don't think is really an AM bike, maybe more freeride. BUt I've ridden enduros and they feel great. Don't pedal as well as DW Link, but great bikes nonetheless.
flag PHeller
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Posted: Nov 9, 2013 at 19:39 Quote
Don't like Lapierre's reliance on electronics, although I suppose they'd work fine with a pedalling platform of any sort.

Marin's new Quad-Link 3 looks interesting:

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"As you can see in the first graphic Quad Link system has a very good pedaling efficiency. If you assemble a functioning XX1 is impeccable, with a percentage of anti-squat around 100% and if you reassemble with a 3x10 or 2x10 operation is also very good. The Pedal-kickback (12th) and Brake-squat (70%) are in a middle. "

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"In the Leverage Ratio Graph see how the system has a brutal escalation (3.55-2.25), we can say that is even slightly excessive, but it also has its advantages: you can use a HV buffer without reducing volume, use a Low Tune in Hydraulic, since the pedal system very well, you can raise the Sag to 30% -35% -40% without any problem, etc ... The box is equipped with a 160mm fork, but with this LR is clear that the rear is not going to be unbalanced."
flag enduro86
Posted: Nov 9, 2013 at 19:41 Quote
PHeller wrote:
Don't like Lapierre's reliance on electronics, although I suppose they'd work fine with a pedalling platform of any sort.

Marin's new Quad-Link 3 looks interesting:

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Looks much like Giant's maestro
flag marxthekittah
Posted: Nov 9, 2013 at 19:43 Quote
enduro86 wrote:
PHeller wrote:
Don't like Lapierre's reliance on electronics, although I suppose they'd work fine with a pedalling platform of any sort.

Marin's new Quad-Link 3 looks interesting:

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Looks much like Giant's maestro
Who! Maestro!!
flag PHeller
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Posted: Nov 9, 2013 at 19:50 Quote
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As you can see, the Giant Trance 275 doesn't have much anti-squat as Marin's iteration of the design.


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But as Tony from Linkage Design mentions, the Marin's leverage ratio is really nice as it's got loads of it up top. Meaning the shock will feel pretty darn stiff with typical pressures. It will allow for running higher sag, lower pressure. Very nice, Marin.
flag dingus
Posted: Nov 10, 2013 at 4:20 Quote
PHeller wrote:
Don't like Lapierre's reliance on electronics, although I suppose they'd work fine with a pedalling platform of any sort.

Read a review of the Spicy in Dirt mag, they were impressed with the electric stuff on the rear shock. If the battery runs out it stay in the last setting selected (there's a blow off valve so it will still absorb big hits even if it's locked out) and you can change the setting manually with an allen key.
flag Hermit185
Posted: Nov 10, 2013 at 11:29 Quote
is 190 too much travel for enduro? was checking out the liteville 601 and thinking a bike with close to dh bike travel and weighing 32 pounds would be a good time all mountain, if it could be pedaled. becuase dh bikes, even sup 30 pound dh bikes, pedal like shit.

edit: i mean to say that i believe that a good AM bike is about kind of travel/effiency, rather than just how much.

double edit: and it works both ways, i was looking at the banshee spitfire as a trail bike, but its burly as hell. i think its less-than-most travel would be enough. snappy!

 


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