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Bendy frames... has it come to this?
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flag adrenalinejunkie11
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 at 14:01 Quote
cthorpe wrote:
the curvy frames coming out seems like just another trend to me, sure there may be some technical advantages and disadvantages at the same time. but just like any other industry, the leading companies are gonna follow each other to some extent. hopefully it will pass or find its place in general bike design. the amount of curve they are starting to use seems a little excessive, but things are always taken over board at first. just like the color scheme fad right now, white, white, white white, god damn!!!

Yea, and other big colours coming in are purple and green....but in 5 years who knows who will want a purple fork?
Cars are the same, 5 years all round and curvy, the next five years extreme angles. (im talking about European cars)
flag hampsteadbandit
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 at 14:40 Quote
the big advantages of using hydroforming to make these "bendy" bikes is the ability to dramatically lower the bike's centre of gravity (by lowering the shock mounting height), to increase standover height for the rider, to clear the adjuster knobs of the current single crown freeride forks,and to get all the relevant points of the frame (linkage mounts, seat pod, shock mounts, etc.) to connect in a neat package

its not weaker to have a bendy frame if its engineered and manufactured properly, its basically heavier than using straight tubing, and costs more to manufacture...that's it Wink


the advantages easily outweigh the disadvantages, and that is why companies are doing in aluminium alloy what could previously only be done in carbon fibre (in terms of the curvy, organic shape giving the frame designer the ability to create a better setup)
flag adrenalinejunkie11
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 at 14:45 Quote
hampsteadbandit wrote:
the big advantages of using hydroforming to make these "bendy" bikes is the ability to dramatically lower the bike's centre of gravity (by lowering the shock mounting height), to increase standover height for the rider, to clear the adjuster knobs of the current single crown freeride forks,and to get all the relevant points of the frame (linkage mounts, seat pod, shock mounts, etc.) to connect in a neat package

its not weaker to have a bendy frame if its engineered and manufactured properly, its basically heavier than using straight tubing, and costs more to manufacture...that's it Wink


the advantages easily outweigh the disadvantages, and that is why companies are doing in aluminium alloy what could previously only be done in carbon fibre (in terms of the curvy, organic shape giving the frame designer the ability to create a better setup)

Along with a lower centre of gravity the geometry seen on the new sx trail makes spinning easier. With the concentration of weight being where it is makes it a perfect slopestyle bike that will be easier to 360 than other bikes
flag lucky-7
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 at 15:26 Quote
WOW! some of you guys are really smart! Were did you learn all this? Website? Shcool?
flag pbuser102331
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 at 15:34 Quote
Jocool wrote:
WOW! some of you guys are really smart! Were did you learn all this? Website? Shcool?

it comes with wisdom daniel son.
flag adrenalinejunkie11
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 at 15:40 Quote
marquis wrote:
Jocool wrote:
WOW! some of you guys are really smart! Were did you learn all this? Website? Shcool?

it comes with wisdom daniel son.

Haha, i dunno if he was talking about me, but im 16.
Maybe a wise 16 year old, lol
flag pbuser102331
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 at 15:45 Quote
adrenalinejunkie11 wrote:
marquis wrote:
Jocool wrote:
WOW! some of you guys are really smart! Were did you learn all this? Website? Shcool?

it comes with wisdom daniel son.

Haha, i dunno if he was talking about me, but im 16.
Maybe a wise 16 year old, lol

lol i was sort of taking the piss out of karate kid,wisdom dont have to come with age,you just need a set of lugs.
flag hampsteadbandit
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 14:48 Quote
WOW! some of you guys are really smart! Were did you learn all this? Website? Shcool?

degree in industrial design, 5 years running a frame manufacturing company and too much bike porn Eek
flag pbuser102331
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 15:06 Quote
hampsteadbandit wrote:
WOW! some of you guys are really smart! Were did you learn all this? Website? Shcool?

degree in industrial design, 5 years running a frame manufacturing company and too much bike porn Eek

MBUK.
flag pipelinewill
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 18:37 Quote
one thing that pisses me off is the way that people often argue about the way bikes look and not how they ride, i mean when u are in the air are u looking at your bike and saying "man this thing looks cool" or are you looking at the landing and saying "man i hope my bike will take that"? as fore the curvy tube thing i really don't know enough to form an opinion
flag dhrunner
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 18:39 Quote
I dont get it either, I LOVE the industrial look of some bikes such as Nicolai's
flag Wilson4
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 18:44 Quote
pipelinewill wrote:
one thing that pisses me off is the way that people often argue about the way bikes look and not how they ride, i mean when u are in the air are u looking at your bike and saying "man this thing looks cool" or are you looking at the landing and saying "man i hope my bike will take that"? as fore the curvy tube thing i really don't know enough to make form opinion

Design is inherently subjective. The reason why people argue about this is that the vast majority of riders aren't concerned with the bike holding up under use. Companies have engineers to worry about that, the vast majority of bikes could withstand more than the human body could. The actual ride of the bike could be considered, but that's hard to examine. How many people have ridden a large amount of bikes for a long period of time to compare them? not many, few even. So design is harked about constantly. I must admit the that looking at the SX more makes me like the Flatline more, but the BigHit's growing on me.
flag pipelinewill
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 18:50 Quote
Wilson4 wrote:
pipelinewill wrote:
one thing that pisses me off is the way that people often argue about the way bikes look and not how they ride, i mean when u are in the air are u looking at your bike and saying "man this thing looks cool" or are you looking at the landing and saying "man i hope my bike will take that"? as fore the curvy tube thing i really don't know enough to make form opinion

Design is inherently subjective. The reason why people argue about this is that the vast majority of riders aren't concerned with the bike holding up under use. Companies have engineers to worry about that, the vast majority of bikes could withstand more than the human body could. The actual ride of the bike could be considered, but that's hard to examine. How many people have ridden a large amount of bikes for a long period of time to compare them? not many, few even. So design is harked about constantly. I must admit the that looking at the SX more makes me like the Flatline more, but the BigHit's growing on me.

very true, but the thing is looks don't mater when u'r riding, and thats what i need from a bike, thus i dont give a flying f*ck how it looks
flag pipelinewill
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 18:53 Quote
p.s. edit on first comment: form an opinion (not make form opinion)
flag lucky-7
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 at 18:53 Quote
pipelinewill wrote:
Wilson4 wrote:
pipelinewill wrote:
one thing that pisses me off is the way that people often argue about the way bikes look and not how they ride, i mean when u are in the air are u looking at your bike and saying "man this thing looks cool" or are you looking at the landing and saying "man i hope my bike will take that"? as fore the curvy tube thing i really don't know enough to make form opinion

Design is inherently subjective. The reason why people argue about this is that the vast majority of riders aren't concerned with the bike holding up under use. Companies have engineers to worry about that, the vast majority of bikes could withstand more than the human body could. The actual ride of the bike could be considered, but that's hard to examine. How many people have ridden a large amount of bikes for a long period of time to compare them? not many, few even. So design is harked about constantly. I must admit the that looking at the SX more makes me like the Flatline more, but the BigHit's growing on me.

very true, but the thing is looks don't mater when u'r riding, and thats what i need from a bike, thus i dont give a flying f*ck how it looks
Edit : I just saw your comment.

 


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