I am looking to buy a new bike I like the tokul 3 just not much info on them can anyone say if Raleigh is still a reputable company? How are there bikes I heard they merged with diamondback. Did that effect their quality? I might have this in the wrong thread but just want a few answers before I pull the trigger on a $1000 bike. Any advice is appreciated thanks.
I worked for a couple of Raleigh dealers a couple years ago. Relative to the price it's not a bad brand. They don't tend to be cutting edge with technology, but the price points they're hitting don't allow for really high end parts much. These days $1000 is becoming entry level when it comes to "bike shop grade" bikes and there's a lot of competition between manufacturers in that price range, so the bikes are not very different as a result. They're using the same components, and the same frame manufacturers in Taiwan, so bikes in this price range are uniformly good, but a $1000 bike from Raleigh isn't going to be a lot different than a $1000 Fuji, or a $1000 Giant, etc. The real differences start happening at around the $3000 price point.
Well my comparison is the diamondback sync'r ($1200)vs the Raleigh tokul 3 ($999.99) I want a bike with a tapered head tube, an air fork, through axels, preferably hydrollic breaks, 27.5 and I'm trying to keep this under $1000 usd that's why I'm leaning towards the Raleigh. I like the slacky geometry style of bikes for more aggressive riding. Any thoughts on a different bike or should I just stick with the Raleigh?
Well my comparison is the diamondback sync'r ($1200)vs the Raleigh tokul 3 ($999.99) I want a bike with a tapered head tube, an air fork, through axels, preferably hydrollic breaks, 27.5 and I'm trying to keep this under $1000 usd that's why I'm leaning towards the Raleigh. I like the slacky geometry style of bikes for more aggressive riding. Any thoughts on a different bike or should I just stick with the Raleigh?
I'm not intimately familiar with the specs on those two models, but I WILL say this regarding hydraulic discs on entry level bikes: I wouldn't buy entry level hydraulic discs unless they're Shimano. There are several good manufacturers of hydraulic brakes out there, but Shimano is the only one in my opinion who offers good ENTRY LEVEL hydraulics. Cheaper, off-brand hydraulics can be a real pain to bleed or try to find pads and parts for. Among the cheaper hydraulic manufacturers that I've worked with/on the only one that seems any good to me is Tektro, and even then, I'd still prefer cheap Shimano.
If you can afford it, I'd go with the Raleigh, then put a really good set of brakes on it (assuming that it doesn't already have Shimano). FWIW, my personal "gold standard" for hydro brakes is Hope. Every Hope hydro brake I've ever seen was in perfect working order, had never needed a re-bleed, and the owner loved it. It's what made me choose their V-twin brake instead of an integrated shift/hydro group from SRAM or Shimano for my drop bar bike.
Going cheap on some things makes sense, but not with brakes. Even the most expensive brakes are cheaper than fixing broken bones and teeth...
I currently work for a Raleigh dealer and have a co-worker that has one and so far the Tokul has been great. He has the Tokul 2 but the Tokul 3 for 2016 isn't much different (as far as they way they're built) apart from the tapered head tube and thru axles front and rear. I can't seem to remember if that bike came with shimano or tektro brakes but they seemed to work well for what they are, and upgrading later on wouldn't be too hard or expensive. Also, Raleigh is Accell North America and they also have Diamondback, Redline, and they also had Lapierre temporarily.
I'm not sure what I would have been able to do. Raleigh has already started discounting 2016 model bikes and that's probably why you got that price. The one I have is a large that was purchased before Raleigh started discounting them so I don't know if the owner would've been happy with dropping the price that much. Since you have already special ordered one at this point, whatever my price would have been is irrelavant! Regardless the Tokul series is pretty cool. For anyone else (spoilers) the Tokul 3 and 4130 are going to be 650+ for 2017.
I'm not sure what I would have been able to do. Raleigh has already started discounting 2016 model bikes and that's probably why you got that price. The one I have is a large that was purchased before Raleigh started discounting them so I don't know if the owner would've been happy with dropping the price that much. Since you have already special ordered one at this point, whatever my price would have been is irrelavant! Regardless the Tokul series is pretty cool. For anyone else (spoilers) the Tokul 3 and 4130 are going to be 650+ for 2017.
Well the verdict is in I took my tokul out for its first spin. What a ride it corners like a cheeta and flys like a gazell. 100% hands down one of the best bikes I have ever rode. Very fun bike no complaints. Thanks for your guys feedback. Can't figure out how to post a pic of it but oh well you get the point it's a mtn bike...lol
Well the verdict is in I took my tokul out for its first spin. What a ride it corners like a cheeta and flys like a gazell. 100% hands down one of the best bikes I have ever rode. Very fun bike no complaints. Thanks for your guys feedback. Can't figure out how to post a pic of it but oh well you get the point it's a mtn bike...lol