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flag dbarnes6891
Posted: Nov 14, 2016 at 22:04 Quote
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question to be honest. The frame I currently own I am running a 10x135mm thru bolt (one of the DT Swiss RWS thru bolts). I know boost is the next big thing or whatever, but I'm apprehensive to spend that much on a new bike right now. You can get my frame in different versions that have a 12x142mm rear end though. I'm curious if there is a drastic difference over a 10x135mm thru bolt when compared to a 12x142mm thru axle. I've read that there really isn't, but I wanted some other opinions.

Thanks
flag jase111171
Posted: Nov 15, 2016 at 6:59 Quote
dbarnes6891 wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question to be honest. The frame I currently own I am running a 10x135mm thru bolt (one of the DT Swiss RWS thru bolts). I know boost is the next big thing or whatever, but I'm apprehensive to spend that much on a new bike right now. You can get my frame in different versions that have a 12x142mm rear end though. I'm curious if there is a drastic difference over a 10x135mm thru bolt when compared to a 12x142mm thru axle. I've read that there really isn't, but I wanted some other opinions.

Thanks
full sus,or hardtail?
flag dbarnes6891
Posted: Nov 16, 2016 at 2:25 Quote
jase111171 wrote:
dbarnes6891 wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question to be honest. The frame I currently own I am running a 10x135mm thru bolt (one of the DT Swiss RWS thru bolts). I know boost is the next big thing or whatever, but I'm apprehensive to spend that much on a new bike right now. You can get my frame in different versions that have a 12x142mm rear end though. I'm curious if there is a drastic difference over a 10x135mm thru bolt when compared to a 12x142mm thru axle. I've read that there really isn't, but I wanted some other opinions.

Thanks
full sus,or hardtail?

Full sus
flag TheRaven
Posted: Nov 21, 2016 at 12:05 Quote
dbarnes6891 wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question to be honest. The frame I currently own I am running a 10x135mm thru bolt (one of the DT Swiss RWS thru bolts). I know boost is the next big thing or whatever, but I'm apprehensive to spend that much on a new bike right now. You can get my frame in different versions that have a 12x142mm rear end though. I'm curious if there is a drastic difference over a 10x135mm thru bolt when compared to a 12x142mm thru axle. I've read that there really isn't, but I wanted some other opinions.

Thanks

No. Well I guess it depends on what you'd consider a "big difference" but I think the right answer is no. In terms of stiffness or strength, no difference. However, in terms of ease of use - HUGE difference. Most people still don't understand the real difference between 10/12x135 and 12x142. It's not a wider axle. The difference is that each side of the dropout in the frame has a 3.5mm recess in it to accept the hub endcaps. This means that you can "slot" the rear wheel into the frame and it will stay in place without the axle in, so you don't have to try to maneuver the wheel and axle into just the right alignment while also supporting the rest of the bike. It's great.
flag dbarnes6891
Posted: Nov 22, 2016 at 0:32 Quote
TheRaven wrote:
dbarnes6891 wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question to be honest. The frame I currently own I am running a 10x135mm thru bolt (one of the DT Swiss RWS thru bolts). I know boost is the next big thing or whatever, but I'm apprehensive to spend that much on a new bike right now. You can get my frame in different versions that have a 12x142mm rear end though. I'm curious if there is a drastic difference over a 10x135mm thru bolt when compared to a 12x142mm thru axle. I've read that there really isn't, but I wanted some other opinions.

Thanks

No. Well I guess it depends on what you'd consider a "big difference" but I think the right answer is no. In terms of stiffness or strength, no difference. However, in terms of ease of use - HUGE difference. Most people still don't understand the real difference between 10/12x135 and 12x142. It's not a wider axle. The difference is that each side of the dropout in the frame has a 3.5mm recess in it to accept the hub endcaps. This means that you can "slot" the rear wheel into the frame and it will stay in place without the axle in, so you don't have to try to maneuver the wheel and axle into just the right alignment while also supporting the rest of the bike. It's great.

Awesome. Thanks. That's more or less what I have been reading. It's not that big of a deal for me so I am going to just stick with what I have. Thanks again for clearing up the mud.
flag FSaldanha
Posted: Nov 23, 2016 at 7:42 Quote
About this, what is the difference between a QR and an Axle in the 10x135 measure, does every frame that takes one takes the other too?
flag dbarnes6891
Posted: Nov 23, 2016 at 7:57 Quote
FSaldanha wrote:
About this, what is the difference between a QR and an Axle in the 10x135 measure, does every frame that takes one takes the other too?
So a QR isn't actually a 10mm X 135mm. Those dinky QR skewers are in actuality about 4 or 5mm. Then there is a Thru Axle which is just that a 12mm x 142 mm Thru Axle which goes through the frame and hub and actually screws into the frame. Finally there is a Thru Bolt which is what I have. This looks a little like a QR. They have an end cap like the QR, but the skewer/axle itself is a true 10mm wide. I have seen these thru bolts in 12mm x 135mm and 10mm x 135mm. I have the 10mm variety. These thru bolts are compatible in any frame that will accept 10 x 135 hub spacing so basically any frame that has a QR will accept a 10 x 135 thru bolt. This is the one I use: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/dt-swiss-rws-thru-bolt-alloy/rp-prod81162

They are out of stock, but that's it. You do need a hub that will accept it. I use a Novatec D882SB in both of my wheel sets. These are convertible and are very reasonably priced. You can pick them up at: http://www.bdopcycling.com/

Killer set up. I do mostly trail riding on a 130mm travel bike with the occasional Enduro Race and these things have yet to disappoint. If you have a 10 x 135 rear end on your bike I highly recommend switching to this set up over QR. It really sucks up the back end and gets rid of the slop.
flag FSaldanha
Posted: Nov 23, 2016 at 17:09 Quote
Thank you so much! There are so many options nowadays that is easy for someone to get all messed up! Thank you again!
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