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2008 Talas 36 RC2 160mm Service Possibilities?

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flag Jshemuel
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Posted: May 20, 2020 at 21:26 Quote
My buddy has an 08 Talas 36 RC2 that hasn't been serviced in waaayyy too long. I've done a bunch of Float lowers services/seal replacements but that's about it. Would love to do a lowers service on the Talas but can't find any tech docs on the Fox site except for the oil volumes.
1) Can I still get new parts for it, including seals/wipers and crush washers? (Does it use crush washers?)
2) Can I do a lowers service without servicing the Talas air shaft, which I hear is notoriously finicky, besides just cleaning it, smearing some Slick Honey on it, and making sure to put the right amount and weight of oil on top of it?
3) Anyone possibly have any service docs for this fork?

Thanks in advance!!
Joey
flag muddytreker
Posted: May 22, 2020 at 6:26 Quote
My 07 Fox 36 Van RC2 cartridge got serviced a year ago, though
it was just a straight forward oil change, the bladder was in good order
and nothing special was needed, the shop still had at the time a suitable
bladder in stock, though I believe parts may be getting less nowadays,
as at the time they could not get info on a 05 Fox 32 Van as fox had discontinued
service of this, not to say I couldn't get info and parts outwith.

Seals, foam rings, crush washers and general lower leg service stuff is all still
available, as all the fox forks share the same in respective stanchion size, well
upto 2018 as far as I can tell.

When I buy a Fox seal kit they tend to have the mix of crush washers to suit
the varoius forks, as your right the float crush washer is different to the Talas,
as one is alloy as opposed to plastic.

https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/fox-36mm-low-friction-no-flange-wiper-seal-kit?gclid=EAIaIQobChMItdy2i8TH6QIV34BQBh1ViwPxEAQYAyABEgIFtfD_BwE

Have come across most of the service instructions for my older forks online,
had to search though, as some off the stuff gets lost or deleted, especially the
pic tutorials due to the picture sights charging, so if you find anything, save it,
print it, for your future ref.
flag Jshemuel
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Posted: May 26, 2020 at 12:33 Quote
Thanks! That link is for the no flange seals; you're saying I can retrofit those onto this old fork?

I was wondering about the alloy crush washer. Thanks for explaining that.
flag muddytreker
Posted: May 27, 2020 at 4:52 Quote
Don't beleive Fox make the flange seals anymore, there all
flangless ? its just that little outside lip thats missing ( personally
prefered the lip as an extra dirt ingress barrier ) my 32's and 34's are
on flangless seals, even the 2004 Fox 32 floats on my kids bikes,
yet to change my 36 as have a few older type seals
still, but surely can't see why those wouldn't work with the newer type also.
flag Jshemuel
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Posted: May 27, 2020 at 10:53 Quote
Thanks!

As for the oil volumes, I'm a little confused.

Fox gives the following specs:
photo

For my recent Float forks (both FIT4 and GRIP) I'm used to seeing air-side bath, damper-side bath, and air chamber (ie above the top of the air spring). This lists a row for the damper but not quantity (red), and three different volumes of float fluid for the IFP, main, and negative chambers, in addition to the baths. Are you saying I can just change the oil in the baths and leave everything else alone?

Thanks,
Joey
flag muddytreker
Posted: May 28, 2020 at 4:21 Quote
I have no experience with the Talas model, but I would say the blue
float fluid is for the Talas cartridge side, aware the Talas has adjustable
travel settings, and guess it has various air chambers to make this
work, whense the blue float fluid, like in the float air model.

Like my Float and Van models, the gold 20wt is the slopping around oil
outwith catridge & internals in both legs ( dif volumes )

The red is for the RC2 FIT catridge, guessing theres no mention of volume for red
oil, as the catridge is reserved for certified Fox service centre to service,
not for the likes of us home grease monkeys : ) though its around 10ml going
by the online tutorials for my Van RC2,
also the RC2 does not need as regular service compared to the lowers, due
to the FIT system, plus its a lot more involved undertaking.

"can just change the oil in the baths and leave everything else alone?"

you can, as the 20wt gold bath oil is what lubricates your bushings, stanchions,
so at the basic service level change 20wt, along with clean or replace foam rings
and seals as needed.

As said I have no experiance with the Talas, but if compared to the Fox float,
I could get away with not changing the blue float fluid in my float forks, as this doesn't
succumb to the same levels of contamination as the stanchions and bushings,
however, I would not want to ignore it for to long, and would only consider doing this as I
have already serviced this area prior and know of its condition.

If you have some 2nd hand forks, then you do not nessissarily know its history or
condition, and would suggest getting it looked at to reset the condition benchmark if you like.

Sorry for the limited help
flag Jshemuel
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Posted: May 28, 2020 at 7:50 Quote
Thanks. That's enough for me to go ahead with the service. Appreciate it!

I'm used to putting regular old suspension oil, not the sticky icky blue float fluid, on top of the air shaft, hence the confusion.
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