How lunatic lefties want “INSURRECTION” but can’t seem to charge anyone with it.

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How lunatic lefties want “INSURRECTION” but can’t seem to charge anyone with it.
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flag PACNW-MTB
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Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 10:17 Quote
I never said we are not. I said there’s no evidence that we are. What part of that do you find difficult to understand?
flag badbadleroybrown
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 10:25 Quote
iffy wrote:
*puts PACNW head on*

Show me the data that says we are not..

*puts PACNW head back in box*

lol
Data isn't an exclusionary affirmation of belief, dipshit... which is exactly the problem with your religion of climate change, you're no longer based in science. Science takes observable correlation and then seeks to prove a causal relationship through inclusionary variables. Your religion is the opposite, it takes a observational correlations and assumes they're causal unless exclusionary variables can be presented to disprove that assumption.

Anthropogenic climate change is not a scientific hypothesis at this point, let alone a scientific fact... it's a religious belief for which any scientific basis that calls it into question is demonized, defunded, and attacked.
flag badbadleroybrown
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 10:29 Quote
PACNW-MTB wrote:
I never said we are not. I said there’s no evidence that we are. What part of that do you find difficult to understand?
It's fact that we've impacted the rate of change... but everything else is pretty much bullshit. This is why climate change science can't tell us the extent to which we've changed the natural rate.

A factual, scientifically sound, approach to climate change, were the "science settled" as they love to claim, would be able to accurately describe the exact degree to which we've impacted climate... it would be able to say that this "x" thing happening today wouldn't have otherwise happened for "y" number of years and without our activity, instead of being this today it would only be "z" percent of what it is today. But they can't and don't... so they either know these variables and they're so minor that publishing them would refute the political money and power grab efforts so they're corrupt, or they don't know them and the science in inconclusive.
flag iffy
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 10:43 Quote
badbadleroybrown wrote:
iffy wrote:
*puts PACNW head on*

Show me the data that says we are not..

*puts PACNW head back in box*

lol
Data isn't an exclusionary affirmation of belief, dipshit... which is exactly the problem with your religion of climate change, you're no longer based in science. Science takes observable correlation and then seeks to prove a causal relationship through inclusionary variables. Your religion is the opposite, it takes a observational correlations and assumes they're causal unless exclusionary variables can be presented to disprove that assumption.

Anthropogenic climate change is not a scientific hypothesis at this point, let alone a scientific fact... it's a religious belief for which any scientific basis that calls it into question is demonized, defunded, and attacked.


er, no it is is not a religion lol

there is general agreement that the effects of humans activities has had a very measurable effect and is responsible for changes to the enviroment.

nothing is demoized defunded or atacked apart from scientific reporting without a heavy bias in favour of industy,

in fact the opposite is the case as for many years profiteers have invested heavily in trying to deny the obvious reality of their activities and its likely effects.



edit: dipshit....
flag iffy
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 10:45 Quote
PACNW-MTB wrote:
I never said we are not. I said there’s no evidence that we are. What part of that do you find difficult to understand?

Rolleyes

* takes PACNW head back out of box*

so you have no proof then?.

*puts PACNW head on compost heap and urinates on it*
flag iffy
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 10:51 Quote
badbadleroybrown wrote:
PACNW-MTB wrote:
I never said we are not. I said there’s no evidence that we are. What part of that do you find difficult to understand?
It's fact that we've impacted the rate of change... but everything else is pretty much bullshit. This is why climate change science can't tell us the extent to which we've changed the natural rate.

A factual, scientifically sound, approach to climate change, were the "science settled" as they love to claim, would be able to accurately describe the exact degree to which we've impacted climate... it would be able to say that this "x" thing happening today wouldn't have otherwise happened for "y" number of years and without our activity, instead of being this today it would only be "z" percent of what it is today. But they can't and don't... so they either know these variables and they're so minor that publishing them would refute the political money and power grab efforts so they're corrupt, or they don't know them and the science in inconclusive.

the "DDT is safe because there is no evidence it is harmful" argument is no longer a valid way to arrive at a conclusion. Rolleyes

prove that it is not damaging without doubt BEFORE causing irreversible damage is the only way to proceed safely.

basically "settle the science for" rather than claim "there is no evidence against" (even though there is)

no benefit of the doubt can be given for activities that may be harmful/damaging and probably impossible to rectify.

the tabacco industry is the same as the FF industy and EVs/bio fuel are just the new vaping. Wink
flag krumpdancer101
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Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:01 Quote
iffy wrote:
badbadleroybrown wrote:
PACNW-MTB wrote:
I never said we are not. I said there’s no evidence that we are. What part of that do you find difficult to understand?
It's fact that we've impacted the rate of change... but everything else is pretty much bullshit. This is why climate change science can't tell us the extent to which we've changed the natural rate.

A factual, scientifically sound, approach to climate change, were the "science settled" as they love to claim, would be able to accurately describe the exact degree to which we've impacted climate... it would be able to say that this "x" thing happening today wouldn't have otherwise happened for "y" number of years and without our activity, instead of being this today it would only be "z" percent of what it is today. But they can't and don't... so they either know these variables and they're so minor that publishing them would refute the political money and power grab efforts so they're corrupt, or they don't know them and the science in inconclusive.

the "DDT is safe because there is no evidence it is harmful" argument is no longer a valid way to arrive at a conclusion. Rolleyes

prove that it is not damaging without doubt BEFORE causing irreversible damage is the only way to proceed safely.

basically "settle the science for" rather than claim "there is no evidence against" (even though there is)

no benefit of the doubt can be given for activities that may be harmful/damaging and probably impossible to rectify.

the tabacco industry is the same as the FF industy and EVs/bio fuel are just the new vaping. Wink

IFFY sure maybe humans have affected the Earth to a point but believing a lawyer, political campaign or party is out to fix the issue then you are only pushing there propaganda. We as humans are going no where and are gifted with a product that is technically as organic as you can get since it is created from the decomposition of organic matter and should be utilized cleanly which the US leads. No country that produces fossil fuel does it even as close to the standards that Americans do.
flag PACNW-MTB
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Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:08 Quote
iffy wrote:
there is general agreement that the effects of humans activities has had a very measurable effect and is responsible for changes to the enviroment.

Instead of insisting that the, “general agreement” (LOL) and “very measurable effect”exists, simply show me the measure and we can put this circular BS to rest.



[Quote=“iffy”]in fact the opposite is the case as for many years profiteers have invested heavily in trying to deny the obvious reality of their activities and its likely effects.[/Quote]

If the, “reality” is, “obvious”, why are the effects only “likely” and not obvious and measurable as well?
flag PACNW-MTB
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Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:14 Quote
Here’s an analogy that describes iffy’s stance;

An office emanates an obnoxious stink, so it is not used and has sat empty for years. Iffy walks into the office, it still stinks, and it is determined that iffy must have shit his pants, causing said stink.

Iffy logic 101 LOL
flag iffy
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:15 Quote
krumpdancer101 wrote:
iffy wrote:
badbadleroybrown wrote:

It's fact that we've impacted the rate of change... but everything else is pretty much bullshit. This is why climate change science can't tell us the extent to which we've changed the natural rate.

A factual, scientifically sound, approach to climate change, were the "science settled" as they love to claim, would be able to accurately describe the exact degree to which we've impacted climate... it would be able to say that this "x" thing happening today wouldn't have otherwise happened for "y" number of years and without our activity, instead of being this today it would only be "z" percent of what it is today. But they can't and don't... so they either know these variables and they're so minor that publishing them would refute the political money and power grab efforts so they're corrupt, or they don't know them and the science in inconclusive.

the "DDT is safe because there is no evidence it is harmful" argument is no longer a valid way to arrive at a conclusion. Rolleyes

prove that it is not damaging without doubt BEFORE causing irreversible damage is the only way to proceed safely.

basically "settle the science for" rather than claim "there is no evidence against" (even though there is)

no benefit of the doubt can be given for activities that may be harmful/damaging and probably impossible to rectify.

the tabacco industry is the same as the FF industy and EVs/bio fuel are just the new vaping. Wink

IFFY sure maybe humans have affected the Earth to a point but believing a lawyer, political campaign or party is out to fix the issue then you are only pushing there propaganda. We as humans are going no where and are gifted with a product that is technically as organic as you can get since it is created from the decomposition of organic matter and should be utilized cleanly which the US leads. No country that produces fossil fuel does it even as close to the standards that Americans do.

er...

who belives lawyers, political bluster or factions? Confused

as for the flag waving stuff..whatever dude lol

PS there are many"organic" substances that are highly toxic to life, because they are orgainc and natural does not mean it is a good idea to spread them about Wink

PPS just though I'd have a look at when shit goes wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_gas_and_oil_production_accidents_in_the_United_States


not claiming its just the US BTW
flag iffy
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:16 Quote
PACNW-MTB wrote:
Here’s an analogy that describes iffy’s stance;

An office emanates an obnoxious stink, so it is not used and has sat empty for years. Iffy walks into the office, it still stinks, and it is determined that iffy must have shit his pants, causing said stink.

Iffy logic 101 LOL

no, your post simply highlights and describes your stupidy and your failure to have a reasoned debate.
flag road-psyclist
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:18 Quote
krumps, liberal vs conservative flame fest thread. Smile

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flag krumpdancer101
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Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:22 Quote
iffy wrote:
krumpdancer101 wrote:
iffy wrote:


the "DDT is safe because there is no evidence it is harmful" argument is no longer a valid way to arrive at a conclusion. Rolleyes

prove that it is not damaging without doubt BEFORE causing irreversible damage is the only way to proceed safely.

basically "settle the science for" rather than claim "there is no evidence against" (even though there is)

no benefit of the doubt can be given for activities that may be harmful/damaging and probably impossible to rectify.

the tabacco industry is the same as the FF industy and EVs/bio fuel are just the new vaping. Wink

IFFY sure maybe humans have affected the Earth to a point but believing a lawyer, political campaign or party is out to fix the issue then you are only pushing there propaganda. We as humans are going no where and are gifted with a product that is technically as organic as you can get since it is created from the decomposition of organic matter and should be utilized cleanly which the US leads. No country that produces fossil fuel does it even as close to the standards that Americans do.

er...

who belives lawyers, political bluster or factions? Confused

as for the flag waving stuff..whatever dude lol

Lol ok...

So as Congress tries to push through laws to help protect slave labor in China (the Uyghurs) the Green Community and John Kerry are lobbying to keep SLAVES producing solar panels for the world.

Guess the nickname Massa suits Wink
flag krumpdancer101
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Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:23 Quote
kinny-pb wrote:
krumps, liberal vs conservative flame fest thread. Smile

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I’m not conservativeWink as I ash my blunt
flag iffy
Posted: Nov 24, 2021 at 11:29 Quote
krumpdancer101 wrote:
iffy wrote:
krumpdancer101 wrote:


IFFY sure maybe humans have affected the Earth to a point but believing a lawyer, political campaign or party is out to fix the issue then you are only pushing there propaganda. We as humans are going no where and are gifted with a product that is technically as organic as you can get since it is created from the decomposition of organic matter and should be utilized cleanly which the US leads. No country that produces fossil fuel does it even as close to the standards that Americans do.

er...

who belives lawyers, political bluster or factions? Confused

as for the flag waving stuff..whatever dude lol

Lol ok...

So as Congress tries to push through laws to help protect slave labor in China (the Uyghurs) the Green Community and John Kerry are lobbying to keep SLAVES producing solar panels for the world.

Guess the nickname Massa suits Wink

yeah the "deflecting responsibility by finger pointing" trick is bullshit too

just in case you were not sure about it.

 
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