Hi There, I am going to be getting a new Bomber Z1 coil and had a couple questions about the fork. 1 - Out of the box the website says a medium spring is installed in the fork, however I have heard from some people its actually a firm thats installed out of the box which is what I am looking for. Is it always a medium spring like the website suggests? 2 - If I do have to change the spring from a medium to a firm, what is the process? Is it as easy as just unscrewing the top cap, pulling out the old spring, greasing and throwing in the new one and reassemble? Or would i have to add more oil or any other steps? Any and all info is appreciated Thanks
Medium spring is installed when new. I'm 170lbs 5'9". In a 29" fork (170mm travel), the medium is really plush, but bottomed out to easily. I moved up to the firm. Less plush, but far better for jumping/hard riding.
Process to install is straight forward. You need a 32mm socket that has a slim fit. Fox sells one for a reasonable price, or you can take a cheap one from an auto store and grind the front edge of the socket to be thin enough. Unscrew the top cap, pull out the old spring, grease the new one with slickoleum, and insert, screw the top cap tight. Done!
I really like this fork (I'm coming off of a 170mm lyrik).
It's supposedly stiffer than a 36 due to thicker material, doesn't creak, and low service. It's very active and I really don't even think about the fork. No regrets!
Andy
TheGame1 wrote:
Hi There, I am going to be getting a new Bomber Z1 coil and had a couple questions about the fork. 1 - Out of the box the website says a medium spring is installed in the fork, however I have heard from some people its actually a firm thats installed out of the box which is what I am looking for. Is it always a medium spring like the website suggests? 2 - If I do have to change the spring from a medium to a firm, what is the process? Is it as easy as just unscrewing the top cap, pulling out the old spring, greasing and throwing in the new one and reassemble? Or would i have to add more oil or any other steps? Any and all info is appreciated Thanks
I just did this spring swap, super simple but I will do the travel adjustment now, since sag is less.
I am only 155lbs and still found stock too soft
Firm feels great
The only tricky part of the swap was a metal washer on the top of the spring between the two plastic parts an the spring I assume is to help distribute the force, likely easy to miss as its thin
I understood the springs are an upgrade with the Bomber 1 and 2 forks. That's good to know I was wrong. I'm 195 I just hope the heaviest spring will be adequate because I already snagged a set an hour ago.
Hello… i wanna ask about Z1 27.5 fork… can i reduce travel from 170mm to 120-130 mm travel? And what parts i should buy to make it
I think the lowest you can go on Z1 is 150mm... As far as I know. With the travel, you just have to rearrange the plastic spacers on the coil shaft.
This might be a dumb question but does this actually change the height of the fork accordingly? Like in my brain I picture that if all the spacers are always in there just in a different config it's the same overall height?
I just did this spring swap, super simple but I will do the travel adjustment now, since sag is less.
I am only 155lbs and still found stock too soft
Firm feels great
The only tricky part of the swap was a metal washer on the top of the spring between the two plastic parts an the spring I assume is to help distribute the force, likely easy to miss as its thin
I'm 145 on a stock spring and on a 4-5' drop to flat, I'm still sitting at maybe 2/3 travel used on a 170mm fork. That seems excessively stiff. I've yet to bottom the thing out even hucking to flat and coming up short, but similar sized riders like you say the medium was fine or even too supple. Kinda wondering if there's something up with mine from the factory? I love the small bump sensitivity on it, but it feels really harsh from mid-stroke on and I'd like to at least occasionally use up my full 170mm. Seems like 5' to flat should be at least close to bottoming out...
Hello… i wanna ask about Z1 27.5 fork… can i reduce travel from 170mm to 120-130 mm travel? And what parts i should buy to make it
I think the lowest you can go on Z1 is 150mm... As far as I know. With the travel, you just have to rearrange the plastic spacers on the coil shaft.
This might be a dumb question but does this actually change the height of the fork accordingly? Like in my brain I picture that if all the spacers are always in there just in a different config it's the same overall height?
Just reduces by the travel you reduced it. The axle to crown height is 20mm longer in the 170 config vs 150.
mrliver wrote:
I'm 145 on a stock spring and on a 4-5' drop to flat, I'm still sitting at maybe 2/3 travel used on a 170mm fork. That seems excessively stiff. I've yet to bottom the thing out even hucking to flat and coming up short, but similar sized riders like you say the medium was fine or even too supple. Kinda wondering if there's something up with mine from the factory? I love the small bump sensitivity on it, but it feels really harsh from mid-stroke on and I'd like to at least occasionally use up my full 170mm. Seems like 5' to flat should be at least close to bottoming out...
It could be the air spring for bottom out is preventing you from full travel, and perhaps more so for you as you're lighter. It's a known "feature" with the Z1 Coil. The O-Ring can be removed and/or the air piston drilled out to allow air flow and full travel. Just have to be aware grease/oil will make it's way past easier, so you'd want to stay on top of your service intervals with this. Another option in place of the coil and bottom out air spring is the vorsprung smashpot conversion with hydraulic bottom out.
I recently reduced my Z1 coil to 160 from 170, and stiffened the spring from Med to Hard. I've also lost 10lbs and am around 200lbs even sans gear, and the fork feels pretty darn good. On a '22 Process 153 29 DL.
Nice pick on the Z1 coil — I’ve been eyeing that fork too. I’ve heard the same mixed info about which spring comes stock, so I’m curious what you find out. Did you go with it mainly for the small bump feel, or just wanted something super simple and reliable?
Nice pick on the Z1 coil — I’ve been eyeing that fork too. I’ve heard the same mixed info about which spring comes stock, so I’m curious what you find out. Did you go with it mainly for the small bump feel, or just wanted something super simple and reliable?
I picked one up last year for my ski bike and so far its worked out well for me. Prob a bit different to compare riding on snow to dirt though. Prior to the Z1 I had the 350R which wasn't bad either. =)
Am interested in this. Purchased a used set of Z1 coils from a friend. I think I need the stiffer spring - the fork has a medium I think, I am 90kg/200lbs, so not light weight.
I am also fitting this to a hardtail, so don’t want to have it ride like a crocodile snap.