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flag teejaaymtb
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Posted: Apr 5, 2023 at 7:53 Quote
I currently have an alloy pnw relay on order. It’s supposed to ship in June, but I’m becoming more and more nervous that, that date, isn’t accurate. I haven’t seen one full review of the relay yet, and phots of the alloy versions are not even available. Also, has anyone heard any word that fazua will offer a range extender or extra battery you can buy, for the ride 60? Going to wait until may to either move forward with the relay purchase, or cancel the order and go with something else.
flag kwietrick
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Posted: Apr 7, 2023 at 10:19 Quote
I emailed transition asking when reviews would be coming out and they told me that press bikes would ship at the same time that customer bikes so. So probably a couple months after we start seeing them in the wild.
flag teejaaymtb
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Posted: Apr 7, 2023 at 13:15 Quote
Interesting. I guess good news? Just hoping to get mine by June/July.
flag Brian81wge1
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Posted: Apr 8, 2023 at 1:31 Quote
My personal first look:

Model: Carbon XX AXS size M
Weight with battery: 44.8lbs with pedals (WolfTooth Waveform large Silver), One Up Pump and EDC tool and water bottle cage on.
Weight without battery: 39.7lbs

Today’s ride: https://www.trailforks.com/ridelog/planner/view/396432/ which I specifically chose because there are some parts where EMTBs aren’t allowed (less than 2 miles total). I’ve also ridden this many times with analog bikes so I know it well. To baseline I currently have a Niner Rip 9 RDO, Specialized Stumpjumper Evo Comp, Forbidden Druid LTD and Trek Fuel EX-E 9.9 XTR. I generally only use the Fuel EX-E when I have my son on the front (Kids Ride Shotgun, he’s 45lbs so it is a workout period) as I have to cross “No E-bike allowed” territory for about 0.5 miles minimum. I am technically breaking the law there but given that I’ve never seen anyone complain about a class 1 MTB in the rest of the area I generally ride my bikes in, I don’t much care. If I had a reasonable way to follow the rules I would but instead it would require me driving for 30 minutes instead of riding a bike for that 0.5 mile to get to the same place. I can get to the trail from my house in less than 10 minutes as well. The whole “no class 1 e-bikes allowed” is an argument I’m unwilling to get into here but as someone who has ridden 99%+ on an analog bike over the last 40 years, I’d say, the more the merrier and let people ride what they want.

Now, onto the bike. Perhaps it is new bike shine, but this is my favorite bike ever (and I can promise you that I’ve never thought that after one ride before). I went out of my way to follow all rules and remove the battery where e-bikes weren’t allowed (put it in my backpack) and put it back in when I crossed the threshold. Couldn’t have been easier. Both versions are simply outstanding bikes. If pressed, I’d take my Druid over the non-battery version but it is not nearly as far apart as I assumed it would be. Not reflected in that ride planner is the detour I took to hit a few jumps and mess around with the closest thing we have to a bike park nearby. This bike doesn’t feel like 45lbs in any way. It feels nimble, poppy and is a blast to ride. I was almost back home before I realized I’d only tried the Breeze mode so I quickly tried River and Rocket on the way back up the hill to my house. I can totally see using River to hit some trails where you want to pick up the speed but Rocket is probably going to be pretty rare. I returned home with 60%+ of the battery (didn’t check the exact amount, sorry, but 3 lights were on). Also, I did download the Trail Default profile and used that as my default setting. The Fazua app is fine. Not great, not terrible. Better than the Trek app though. And significantly better range than the Trek as well.

The power was so natural that it was almost unnoticed until I got to points where I’m usually dying. Those became simply hard instead. On pavement the motor is louder than the TQ but on the trail it was indistinguishable. Both are much quieter than the Levo SL I briefly owned.

As for the SRAM T-Type Transmission, I have it on the Druid and the Stevo already so I was pretty used to it. It is great and being able to shift under power is really cool once you convince yourself to do it. The new SRAM Stealth brakes don’t feel any different than the Code RSCs I have on everything other than the Trek. If you like them then you’ll like these.

My only nit is the One Up dropper post. I have SRAM AXS Reverbs on all of my other bikes and the lag is noticeable on the One Up. I’ll be replacing that shortly as I find the new model of Reverb awesome even though I realize that the previous version wasn’t great.


Pros:
Silent motor on trails
Natural feel
Range significantly longer than than the Fuel Ex-E
Doesn’t feel like a heavy bike
Love the option to take the battery out
Ride is amazing. I mean, it is just a fun bike to ride. I don’t have the talent a lot of you do and I’m likely way older than most of you but I can get a bike around. This bike is just a blast to ride.
Transition Support is great!

Cons:
A little heavy to use if the battery is out
My brakes were reversed on delivery. That was a quick fix but it freaked me out during my first test ride to bed the brakes and just get a feel for the suspension
Water bottle space is lacking a bit. If I’m riding an e-bike that means that I’m going to be out for a while. I have to carry more water in a backpack that I could otherwise avoid with a bit more space
Fazua display is not useful

I don’t have a rating scale as it is the first time I’ve done one of these as a first impression but I’ll try to quantify on a 10 point scale along with my other bikes to give you my relative thoughts. I’ll assume the battery is in for these ratings as I’ll ride it that way most of the time.

Transition Relay-8.5
Forbidden Druid-8
Niner Rip 9 RDO-7.8
Stumpjumper Evo Comp-7.5
Trek Fuel Ex-E-6.5 (range hurts it but otherwise great bike)

Summary of my thoughts:
If, like me, you’ve ridden full fat e-MTBs and just aren’t interested but still want to be able to use an EMTB on certain occasions, this is the bike for you.
flag teejaaymtb
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Posted: Apr 9, 2023 at 10:27 Quote
[Quote="Brian81wge1"]My personal first look:

Model: Carbon XX AXS size M
Weight with battery: 44.8lbs with pedals (WolfTooth Waveform large Silver), One Up Pump and EDC tool and water bottle cage on.
Weight without battery: 39.7lbs

Today’s ride: https://www.trailforks.com/ridelog/planner/view/396432/ which I specifically chose because there are some parts where EMTBs aren’t allowed (less than 2 miles total). I’ve also ridden this many times with analog bikes so I know it well. To baseline I currently have a Niner Rip 9 RDO, Specialized Stumpjumper Evo Comp, Forbidden Druid LTD and Trek Fuel EX-E 9.9 XTR. I generally only use the Fuel EX-E when I have my son on the front (Kids Ride Shotgun, he’s 45lbs so it is a workout period) as I have to cross “No E-bike allowed” territory for about 0.5 miles minimum. I am technically breaking the law there but given that I’ve never seen anyone complain about a class 1 MTB in the rest of the area I generally ride my bikes in, I don’t much care. If I had a reasonable way to follow the rules I would but instead it would require me driving for 30 minutes instead of riding a bike for that 0.5 mile to get to the same place. I can get to the trail from my house in less than 10 minutes as well. The whole “no class 1 e-bikes allowed” is an argument I’m unwilling to get into here but as someone who has ridden 99%+ on an analog bike over the last 40 years, I’d say, the more the merrier and let people ride what they want.

Now, onto the bike. Perhaps it is new bike shine, but this is my favorite bike ever (and I can promise you that I’ve never thought that after one ride before). I went out of my way to follow all rules and remove the battery where e-bikes weren’t allowed (put it in my backpack) and put it back in when I crossed the threshold. Couldn’t have been easier. Both versions are simply outstanding bikes. If pressed, I’d take my Druid over the non-battery version but it is not nearly as far apart as I assumed it would be. Not reflected in that ride planner is the detour I took to hit a few jumps and mess around with the closest thing we have to a bike park nearby. This bike doesn’t feel like 45lbs in any way. It feels nimble, poppy and is a blast to ride. I was almost back home before I realized I’d only tried the Breeze mode so I quickly tried River and Rocket on the way back up the hill to my house. I can totally see using River to hit some trails where you want to pick up the speed but Rocket is probably going to be pretty rare. I returned home with 60%+ of the battery (didn’t check the exact amount, sorry, but 3 lights were on). Also, I did download the Trail Default profile and used that as my default setting. The Fazua app is fine. Not great, not terrible. Better than the Trek app though. And significantly better range than the Trek as well.

The power was so natural that it was almost unnoticed until I got to points where I’m usually dying. Those became simply hard instead. On pavement the motor is louder than the TQ but on the trail it was indistinguishable. Both are much quieter than the Levo SL I briefly owned.

As for the SRAM T-Type Transmission, I have it on the Druid and the Stevo already so I was pretty used to it. It is great and being able to shift under power is really cool once you convince yourself to do it. The new SRAM Stealth brakes don’t feel any different than the Code RSCs I have on everything other than the Trek. If you like them then you’ll like these.

My only nit is the One Up dropper post. I have SRAM AXS Reverbs on all of my other bikes and the lag is noticeable on the One Up. I’ll be replacing that shortly as I find the new model of Reverb awesome even though I realize that the previous version wasn’t great.


Pros:
Silent motor on trails
Natural feel
Range significantly longer than than the Fuel Ex-E
Doesn’t feel like a heavy bike
Love the option to take the battery out
Ride is amazing. I mean, it is just a fun bike to ride. I don’t have the talent a lot of you do and I’m likely way older than most of you but I can get a bike around. This bike is just a blast to ride.
Transition Support is great!

Cons:
A little heavy to use if the battery is out
My brakes were reversed on delivery. That was a quick fix but it freaked me out during my first test ride to bed the brakes and just get a feel for the suspension
Water bottle space is lacking a bit. If I’m riding an e-bike that means that I’m going to be out for a while. I have to carry more water in a backpack that I could otherwise avoid with a bit more space
Fazua display is not useful

I don’t have a rating scale as it is the first time I’ve done one of these as a first impression but I’ll try to quantify on a 10 point scale along with my other bikes to give you my relative thoughts. I’ll assume the battery is in for these ratings as I’ll ride it that way most of the time.

Transition Relay-8.5
Forbidden Druid-8
Niner Rip 9 RDO-7.8
Stumpjumper Evo Comp-7.5
Trek Fuel Ex-E-6.5 (range hurts it but otherwise great bike)

Summary of my thoughts:
If, like me, you’ve ridden full fat e-MTBs and just aren’t interested but still want to be able to use an EMTB on certain occasions, this is the bike for you.[/Quote



Thanks for this!!
flag SunsPSD
Posted: Apr 10, 2023 at 15:32 Quote
Awesome.

Thank you for this.
flag Dallasdownunder
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Posted: Apr 11, 2023 at 5:47 Quote
teejaaymtb wrote:
I currently have an alloy pnw relay on order. It’s supposed to ship in June, but I’m becoming more and more nervous that, that date, isn’t accurate. I haven’t seen one full review of the relay yet, and phots of the alloy versions are not even available. Also, has anyone heard any word that fazua will offer a range extender or extra battery you can buy, for the ride 60? Going to wait until may to either move forward with the relay purchase, or cancel the order and go with something else.

I have ordered a battery from Canyon who use the ride 60 in commuter bikes. Range extender seems a while off
flag sandiegotrent
Posted: Apr 11, 2023 at 20:00 Quote
Brian81wge1 wrote:
My personal first look:

Model: Carbon XX AXS size M
Weight with battery: 44.8lbs with pedals (WolfTooth Waveform large Silver), One Up Pump and EDC tool and water bottle cage on.
Weight without battery: 39.7lbs

Today’s ride: https://www.trailforks.com/ridelog/planner/view/396432/ which I specifically chose because there are some parts where EMTBs aren’t allowed (less than 2 miles total). I’ve also ridden this many times with analog bikes so I know it well. To baseline I currently have a Niner Rip 9 RDO, Specialized Stumpjumper Evo Comp, Forbidden Druid LTD and Trek Fuel EX-E 9.9 XTR. I generally only use the Fuel EX-E when I have my son on the front (Kids Ride Shotgun, he’s 45lbs so it is a workout period) as I have to cross “No E-bike allowed” territory for about 0.5 miles minimum. I am technically breaking the law there but given that I’ve never seen anyone complain about a class 1 MTB in the rest of the area I generally ride my bikes in, I don’t much care. If I had a reasonable way to follow the rules I would but instead it would require me driving for 30 minutes instead of riding a bike for that 0.5 mile to get to the same place. I can get to the trail from my house in less than 10 minutes as well. The whole “no class 1 e-bikes allowed” is an argument I’m unwilling to get into here but as someone who has ridden 99%+ on an analog bike over the last 40 years, I’d say, the more the merrier and let people ride what they want.

Now, onto the bike. Perhaps it is new bike shine, but this is my favorite bike ever (and I can promise you that I’ve never thought that after one ride before). I went out of my way to follow all rules and remove the battery where e-bikes weren’t allowed (put it in my backpack) and put it back in when I crossed the threshold. Couldn’t have been easier. Both versions are simply outstanding bikes. If pressed, I’d take my Druid over the non-battery version but it is not nearly as far apart as I assumed it would be. Not reflected in that ride planner is the detour I took to hit a few jumps and mess around with the closest thing we have to a bike park nearby. This bike doesn’t feel like 45lbs in any way. It feels nimble, poppy and is a blast to ride. I was almost back home before I realized I’d only tried the Breeze mode so I quickly tried River and Rocket on the way back up the hill to my house. I can totally see using River to hit some trails where you want to pick up the speed but Rocket is probably going to be pretty rare. I returned home with 60%+ of the battery (didn’t check the exact amount, sorry, but 3 lights were on). Also, I did download the Trail Default profile and used that as my default setting. The Fazua app is fine. Not great, not terrible. Better than the Trek app though. And significantly better range than the Trek as well.

The power was so natural that it was almost unnoticed until I got to points where I’m usually dying. Those became simply hard instead. On pavement the motor is louder than the TQ but on the trail it was indistinguishable. Both are much quieter than the Levo SL I briefly owned.

As for the SRAM T-Type Transmission, I have it on the Druid and the Stevo already so I was pretty used to it. It is great and being able to shift under power is really cool once you convince yourself to do it. The new SRAM Stealth brakes don’t feel any different than the Code RSCs I have on everything other than the Trek. If you like them then you’ll like these.

My only nit is the One Up dropper post. I have SRAM AXS Reverbs on all of my other bikes and the lag is noticeable on the One Up. I’ll be replacing that shortly as I find the new model of Reverb awesome even though I realize that the previous version wasn’t great.


Pros:
Silent motor on trails
Natural feel
Range significantly longer than than the Fuel Ex-E
Doesn’t feel like a heavy bike
Love the option to take the battery out
Ride is amazing. I mean, it is just a fun bike to ride. I don’t have the talent a lot of you do and I’m likely way older than most of you but I can get a bike around. This bike is just a blast to ride.
Transition Support is great!

Cons:
A little heavy to use if the battery is out
My brakes were reversed on delivery. That was a quick fix but it freaked me out during my first test ride to bed the brakes and just get a feel for the suspension
Water bottle space is lacking a bit. If I’m riding an e-bike that means that I’m going to be out for a while. I have to carry more water in a backpack that I could otherwise avoid with a bit more space
Fazua display is not useful

I don’t have a rating scale as it is the first time I’ve done one of these as a first impression but I’ll try to quantify on a 10 point scale along with my other bikes to give you my relative thoughts. I’ll assume the battery is in for these ratings as I’ll ride it that way most of the time.

Transition Relay-8.5
Forbidden Druid-8
Niner Rip 9 RDO-7.8
Stumpjumper Evo Comp-7.5
Trek Fuel Ex-E-6.5 (range hurts it but otherwise great bike)

Summary of my thoughts:
If, like me, you’ve ridden full fat e-MTBs and just aren’t interested but still want to be able to use an EMTB on certain occasions, this is the bike for you.

Agree with most of your review. Did you mention the crappy fazua controller? Straight garbage.

I also have AXS dropper on my other bike (21 hightower). I love AXS but still stuck on 170. I'm enjoying the 210 (size XL for me) but agree that it's slower. I think there are some adjustments? I could be wrong.

I prefer the old AXS shifter (with the rocker modification).

But the bike is insanely great. I also didn't use much blue or pink. Mostly green with the occasional hold up for 20 seconds of boost up really steep/tech sections that usually wipe me out.

Cheers to more Relay time!
flag dfellb
Posted: May 11, 2023 at 22:22 Quote
Found this video today: https://youtu.be/bXCWmGTJNBo

I’ll be picking up a Carbon GX build tomorrow at my local shop. Stoked since it’s a replacement for my sentinel that has been amazing for 3 years.
flag SunsPSD
Posted: May 30, 2023 at 11:40 Quote
I tried to post my Relay ride experiences, but it got deleted as spam. Not certain why.
flag skierdud89
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Posted: May 31, 2023 at 7:56 Quote
Did you end up keeping your order?

I'll be curious to see how it compares to the Levo SL as that PNW aluminum has a great price to spec ratio.
flag teejaaymtb
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Posted: May 31, 2023 at 20:44 Quote
Canceled my order and bought a yt decoy, my build got pushed to August delivery. Wasn’t stoked on that. Plus, I’m hearing some stories of people returning the bike after a few rides. A friend of mine rides in Bellingham and a few of his riding buddies bought relays. 3 out of 5 of them returned the bike after the first ride. Apparently the ring controller switches modes when going through rough descents. Hope this isn’t true of all the bikes but I didn’t want to take the risk. Plus, the silence online about these bikes is deafening.
flag dfellb
Posted: Jun 1, 2023 at 13:57 Quote
Relay has been great. It’s enough power to do what I want and nimble enough on descents. Such an improvement over a full power eMTB. Those things are too damn heavy (had a Levo and sold it in a few months). Relay feels like my Sentinel with a little more travel but I fly uphill, hah. The ring controller feels cheap yeah but it works fine.
flag HeatedRotor
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Posted: Jun 1, 2023 at 16:32 Quote
danstratplr wrote:
Relay has been great. It’s enough power to do what I want and nimble enough on descents. Such an improvement over a full power eMTB. Those things are too damn heavy (had a Levo and sold it in a few months). Relay feels like my Sentinel with a little more travel but I fly uphill, hah. The ring controller feels cheap yeah but it works fine.
I just think they each have their place. I have no issues swinging a 50lb bike around, im about 183cm/95kg so 24kg or so is not alot extra and once you get used to it, its fine IMO.

I think its important to get geo right on the full power bikes, I found the longer reach bikes can be a bit cumbersome, which is similar to the normal version minus weight.

the relay Is a good idea due to its multi purpose and i think its a great bike (i did demo one)
flag SunsPSD
Posted: Jun 2, 2023 at 7:27 Quote
It took 3 rides to get it mostly dialed in but I ADORE my Relay. Unfortunately, I purchased an XL and should have bought a L. It's the most capable bike of any sort I've ever ridden. Like it's nuts!

I have placed it for sale in the classifieds.

As soon as it sells I'll order a new L.

If anyone wants to save $1.8K on an XL GX Carbon, that never had the drivetrain/ wheels/ tires/ fork used (I ran my own parts) and wants it by next weekend, find my advert then contact me.

To those that aren't interested in my XL, It's a rad bike that I'd highly recommend. I've personally had no issues at all with it but have only ridden it 3x, and the first 2 rides were quite short.

Regarding the ring controller, mine works perfectly. However, I did find that if you over tighten, or under tighten the clamp bolt, it'll do weird things like stick or move.
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