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Looking for a 10x135 bolt on rear hub with cassette

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flag NvxIjxxu
Posted: Nov 12, 2023 at 10:13 Quote
Hello,
I'd like to build a street/dj bike with some gears, like Sam Pilgrim's for example.
The frame is 10x135, but bolt on hubs with cassette are hard to find.
Hope will be too much dough. I saw one from Haro. Are there other models to look for or converters from QR to Bolt On that I could use on cheaper hubs?
Thank you!
flag forty0
Posted: Nov 12, 2023 at 14:25 Quote
are you looking specifically for "bolt on" hubs?
or just any 10x135 thru axle hub that can take a cassette?

most bolt on hubs are ss specific using a driver style freehub, but plenty of mtb cassette hubs can be converted to 10x135 thru axle and just arent marketed that way

you can also use a 12x135 hub with a 12-10mm 135mm step down axle which is more common for some brands of hubs

dt swiss 350s are great for the price and can be converted to just about any size needed, ive also had great luck with bitex mtb270 which is very reasonably priced and easily converted as well
flag NvxIjxxu
Posted: Nov 13, 2023 at 1:32 Quote
Thank you. The frame has horizontal open dropouts, that's why I'm looking for a bolt on solution. I've found a used 350 but cannot find adaptors for it, same with the Bitex.
Can I use any axle on any hub?
flag forty0
Posted: Nov 13, 2023 at 8:31 Quote
NvxIjxxu wrote:
Thank you. The frame has horizontal open dropouts, that's why I'm looking for a bolt on solution. I've found a used 350 but cannot find adaptors for it, same with the Bitex.
Can I use any axle on any hub?

nope not any axle on any hub, things are complicated and have to be compatible, its a pain in the butt sorry

thru axle is fine for dj use, "bolt on" generally means the hub has female threads on both ends for bolts to go in (bmx style), thru axle is a solid axle slid through the hub with male thread on one or both ends (mtb style), still plenty secure for horizontal dropouts

for a 350 you would need this

https://www.amazon.com/DT-Swiss-Rear-Conversion-10mm/dp/B001CJXDLQ

and then a 10x135 axle like the rws skewer or hadley 10x135 axle which would be my preference

if going with something like the bitex you can get it in 10x135 or 12x135 setup new

https://www.bikehubstore.com/MTR-p/mtr.htm

these are just a few examples as well, lots of hubs out there that will work, just need the right conversion kit and axle to match, dont forget spoke # as well, some of these are 28 hole and some 32 or 36
flag NvxIjxxu
Posted: Nov 14, 2023 at 0:01 Quote
Hi Forty0,
Thank you very much for taking the time and the links.
If I understand well, the thru bolt system and its torque can be an alternative to Bolt on open horizontal dropouts for a street/park/dirt usage?
flag NvxIjxxu
Posted: Nov 14, 2023 at 0:02 Quote
PS : why would the Hadley have your preference?
flag forty0
Posted: Nov 14, 2023 at 8:08 Quote
most consider bolt on and thru axle to be equivalent in strength although bolt on is likely a little stronger

thru axles tend to be more common in the mtb world, where bolt on is more common with single speed parts like bmx, but then there are hubs like the ns rotary cassette (a good budget option) or chris king with fun bolts which are both bolt on and cassette style hubs, there are all sorts of combos out there

hadley makes very high quality parts, they are also one of the few companies that make a 135x10 axle, and its a very nice one, but other brands also offer them that work just fine

personally i have 3 hubs that are 135x10

hadley ss hub with hadley 135x10 thru axle
ns rotary ss hub that is bolt on
bitex mtb270 hub with dt swiss 135x10 rws skewer

never an issue with any of them, i prefer the rws skewer on my mtb with vertical dropouts but have used a hadley axle on it as well

i also had an azonic outlaw wheelset that was 135x12, and used a 12-10 step down axle, that worked just fine also
flag R-trailking-S
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Posted: Nov 15, 2023 at 12:13 Quote
A 135x10 will work. You would just need a long titanium bolt and nut. That's how the spare wheel i am using is set up. I just put a bunch of spacers from the inside of a cassette to space it out for a single cog.

In my experience, the dt swiss thru axle slips in horizontal dropouts and doesn't work.
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