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Marzocchi coil on La Sal Peak?

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flag mrliver
Posted: Jun 10, 2024 at 8:48 Quote
Hey all,

I throw a Marzocchi bomber coil fork on my La Sal Peak, and after one ride I'm convinced it's 100% better than the DVO Onyx that came on it, which was a major surprise.

Now I wanna drop a bomber CR on the rear.

Here's the thing--I am in way over my head with coil shocks. The La Sal's rear sus feels pretty linear to me, which I know is a warning sign for coils. Of course Fez (or.. .Ari, I gues) doesn't publish any suspension curve info for the LSP, for some reason. Mine is the modern model (2022).

I am about 150 kitted out on a medium LSP. Have heard some people recommend progressive springs. This would be my first coil shock, and I don't want to drop $350ish just to screw it all up. What's the move? Head to the LBS and ask them to recommend a spring rate? Use an online calculator and hope? Go for a progressive spring and hope?

Any old heads who know better and wanna set me straight, please chime in. I like to ride steep and difficult chunk and also love high-speed jump/flow trails. Priority is small bump sensitivity as I have an old wrist injury that makes a hand go numb if there's too much vibration over a long descent. Would also like to retain some pop on jumps/popping off a rock to air a garden, etc., and have some solid bottom-out resistance as insurance for when I run out of talent. The rest, I don't care much about.
flag overbiked
FL
Posted: Jul 16, 2024 at 8:45 Quote
@mrliver I'm 150 lbs and have ridden a handful of medium LSPs. I found that for the most part a 350 lb linear spring will be fine for most riding.

A spring calculator for that bike put me right at 350 for 30% sag, and that worked out well for me. I rode one for a couple laps at Deer Valley, and I did find myself bottoming out when sending things a bit too hard but for the most part it was great.

I like progressive coils (like sprindex) on more linear bikes like the LSP. I swap between progressive and linear springs frequently on my Canfield Lithium, but you'll usually be okay with the standard spring.

The coil rear isn't as conducive to jumping and popping compared to an air shock, but since you're already on a coil fork my guess is you're alright with that change. Nothing a couple of turns of preload won't fix.
flag mrliver
Posted: Oct 1, 2024 at 13:27 Quote
overbiked wrote:
@mrliver I'm 150 lbs and have ridden a handful of medium LSPs. I found that for the most part a 350 lb linear spring will be fine for most riding.

A spring calculator for that bike put me right at 350 for 30% sag, and that worked out well for me. I rode one for a couple laps at Deer Valley, and I did find myself bottoming out when sending things a bit too hard but for the most part it was great.

I like progressive coils (like sprindex) on more linear bikes like the LSP. I swap between progressive and linear springs frequently on my Canfield Lithium, but you'll usually be okay with the standard spring.

The coil rear isn't as conducive to jumping and popping compared to an air shock, but since you're already on a coil fork my guess is you're alright with that change. Nothing a couple of turns of preload won't fix.

Yeah, I prefer things a little on the stiff side if possible. Actually, I basically never bottom the bomber fork on the lightest spring--only did when I overshot a 20'+step down and landed flat and another time when I cased a really big double. I've been super impressed with the fork and how plush it is on the softest spring + how hard I can ride it at 155 lbs.

Do you think it'd be worth going with a 400 lb. spring if I prefer things a bit stiff? Probably no way to tell, I know. Also considering a 350 lb. progressive spring like a cane creek valt.

Weirdly, I like how the LSP jumps BETTER with the spring fork. I feel like I can push int the face of jumps a bit more... steadily? Easily? I don't even know how to explain it, but I feel like I can soak up jumps and stay low OR pop and maximize distance and height more easily with the spring fork. That's only for flow trails/at speed. Less pop on jibby things and slow-speed tech for sure.
flag mrliver
Posted: Oct 19, 2024 at 16:13 Quote
overbiked wrote:
@mrliver I'm 150 lbs and have ridden a handful of medium LSPs. I found that for the most part a 350 lb linear spring will be fine for most riding.

A spring calculator for that bike put me right at 350 for 30% sag, and that worked out well for me. I rode one for a couple laps at Deer Valley, and I did find myself bottoming out when sending things a bit too hard but for the most part it was great.

I like progressive coils (like sprindex) on more linear bikes like the LSP. I swap between progressive and linear springs frequently on my Canfield Lithium, but you'll usually be okay with the standard spring.

The coil rear isn't as conducive to jumping and popping compared to an air shock, but since you're already on a coil fork my guess is you're alright with that change. Nothing a couple of turns of preload won't fix.

Hey there,

I went with a 400 lb spring. I'm 160 lbs with kit, and I'm already finding the bottom of that 400 lber quickly. Thinking on a 400-488 Cane Creek progressive spring? I'd love if a prog spring would restore a bit more pop to the rear, and having the first half of the spring at 400 w/ the ramp-up just seems... obvious? IDK, looking for any good reasons not to do it at this point. I've definitely gotten better at body English and popping already to get the bike off the ground as effectively as I did before, but 400 is too mushy for me for sure.
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