NS sub build

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flag charge-rider
Posted: Nov 1, 2008 at 10:02 Quote
wtp-jack wrote:
cheers for all the feedback guysand gutkrencher your bike is well sexy!lol

jack
You sure you weren't talking about the parrotslol
flag alex-dh
Posted: Nov 1, 2008 at 10:03 Quote
charge-rider wrote:
wtp-jack wrote:
cheers for all the feedback guysand gutkrencher your bike is well sexy!lol

jack
You sure you weren't talking about the parrotslol

yea he was Razz

nice parrots though Razz
flag roostreet
Posted: Nov 2, 2008 at 1:32 Quote
climbingbubba wrote:
roostreet wrote:
wat is the diffrence the cap is slightly lighter and slacker and the sub is slightly stronger and comes in 26 and 24 and has disc mounts

The differences are the capital has shorter chainstays so easier manualing, its stronger (alot of subs have snapped in 08.), its got a steeper HA 72-73 with a rigid which means more bmx feel, and shorter wheelbase so its easier to spin.
the capital is basically more street/park oriented

here are a few more important things to consider

If your running a rigid you should get a Capital, they are designed around one. the sub with a rigid has a BB height under 12 which is too low IMO. my sub had 11.8 bb and it was hard to manual and i hit it on the coping at the park alot.

also like mentioned above the 08 subs snap alot where the top tube meets the seat tube. almost all of them had rigids on them.
but then y do so many people get subs they cant be that bad and soderstrom did addidas slopestyle on one is the cap bad at dj is that y more people get the sub?
flag climbingbubba
Posted: Nov 2, 2008 at 7:01 Quote
yeah the cap isn't as good at DJ's. the sub is better at that but the cap is better at street/park. however if they were bmx style DJ's like really sharp transitions and small radius turns then the capital might be better.

the only difference is in the HA. the sub is around 70 with a sus fork and the cap is 71 but most people either lower their fork a ton or run a rigid on the capital. with a rebate rigid the capital would be around 73 or 73.5. that is getting close to a bmx bike. so if Bmx can dirt jump with a 75 degree then any MTB can with no excuse.
flag moleman
Posted: Nov 2, 2008 at 7:12 Quote
I've noticed that some people were surggesting to use an Alu bar with rigids, its not a great idea. If you're running rigids then use a steel bar.

Also it would be better to run a Capital frame with rigids then a Sub, like one of you guys said.
flag gutkrencher
Posted: Nov 2, 2008 at 7:31 Quote
moleman wrote:
I've noticed that some people were surggesting to use an Alu bar with rigids, its not a great idea. If you're running rigids then use a steel bar.

Also it would be better to run a Capital frame with rigids then a Sub, like one of you guys said.

yeah steel bars disipate vibrations well and alu bars dont.

youd be surprised. subs run better rigid imo, my mate has his with spenshions and i reckon the geo suffers for it.
my rebate lowers the bb to a good height and steepens it up. perfect for trails
flag showpony
Posted: Nov 20, 2008 at 22:42 Quote
Okay, have a look at my new one.

weight at 27lbs, with heavy tyres and pedals.

Not rigid, but super stiff forks that have the perfect amount of give and lots of adustability


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FHere's the spec.

Frame: NS Suburban 26
Forks: Marzocchi 4X World Cup
Brake: Avid Juicy 7
Rims: Sun Equalizer 31
Front Hub: NS Roller 20
Rear Hub: NS SS Pro 10t
Tyres: Schwalbe Big Apple
Crankset: Deity Vendetta
Sprocket: Deity Termite 25t
Pedals: NS Legeaters
Bars: Deity Twenty14 25.4
Stem: NS Quark Pro
Headset: Token
flag foreplayfirst
Posted: Jan 2, 2010 at 10:18 Quote
What Kind of BB are you guys Running ?
flag kfretz012
Posted: Jan 3, 2010 at 9:22 Quote
magnusts wrote:
wtp-jack wrote:
ok then i will go for the rebates. if you run a 28t on the front what would you run on the back?
jack

I would use like a 13 or 12. But thats all just personal preference!
using 13 or 12 with 28 would be ok but remember the longer the chain the harder it is to pedal
flag bikeshavefeelings2
Posted: Feb 13, 2010 at 10:44 Quote
alex-dh wrote:
climbingbubba wrote:
alex-dh wrote:
niice Smile

im building a NS sub once i sell my norco dh Smile

im getting into DJ and little bit of street


sorry to thread jack but here's my build list Razz

NS Suburban 24 GREEN 5.26 IBS
Rockshox Argyle 318 forks 5.55 IBS
DMR Pro Front 20 Bolt wheel 24 1.41 IBS
DMR Pro rear 11t ss wheel 24 1.41 IBS
NS Quark Stem 0.57 IBS
NS district bars white 0.99 IBS
FSA The Pig headset 0.39 IBS
Sunline Lock on Thick Grips
DMR Voild Slim Saddle 1.19 IBS
hamilton clear plastic peddels 0.78 IBS
Bland red 28t Sproket 0.17 IBS
NS Octane one seat post not alot as will be 2-3cm long
Spank Tweet Tweet red chain
Avid ball bearing 5 MTB disk 0.71 IBS
Schwalbe 24's table tops 2.6 IBS (both)
Atomlab G.I crankset Black

TOTAL weight of them 21.03 IBS !!!


thats the manufacturs weight so not 100% right


Smile

that build will be 26 lbs at least, atomlab gi cranks are heavy, hubs are heavy, fork is way heavy, etc etc, im not trying to be a jerk, just letting you know before hand so your not pissed when you build it up.

with that said it should be a sick build, im starting to feel that way light is not good, especially if your jumping it. 28-30 is perfect for DJ's and light is good for park/street.

ok enough comments in a row, time to ride


well 26 Ibs is good weight imo Big Grin

cheers anyway Big Grin

the atomlab crank weights 1.2kgs aka 2.6lbs

 


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