YT Industries Play...? Have a play with this...

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JamesDyer

Posted: Mar 12, 2010 at 12:59	Quote
Please i need some help deciding if this is good and does anyone know if it is actually out... Thanks...

Dalmando

Posted: Mar 12, 2010 at 13:06

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is getting a yt industries play

Judging by your message, you have already decided

JamesDyer

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 7:48	Quote
you rinsed me... but is it out yet? I still don't know...

JamesDyer

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 10:00	Quote
bump...

rokor

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 10:26	Quote
Bump only after 24 hours of the last post.

Dalmando

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 11:10

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Ok, no-one is helping you so i will try.

I was very interested in getting one and had even talked my way into buying a frame from them (which they wouldn't normally do). They bike is available to buy but they only sell through their website, so you would be able to buy one. The spec seems good although i have heard that the shock is not the best but you could buy a Fox RP2 for £100 of chain reaction cycles: Fox RP2

So to sum up, it looks like a good bike with a decent spec for a great price.

For anyone else wanting to see the bike, here it is:

www.yt-industries.com

hampsteadbandit

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 12:40	Quote
isn't that a Transition Double "rebadged"? (or VERY similar to a Transition) surely, if true, then YT are the manufacturer for Transition? you often find the "brand" has some specific "details" or "tweaks" to the design (for example - gussets, dropout shape), but is otherwise the same product could be wrong, but this how the bike biz tends to work....

Dalmando

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 12:46	Quote
One of the incredibly rare times that you are wrong, but unfortunately, you are, YT-Industries are a new German company. They are fairly unheard of as they don't have any distributors because they only sell through their website.

hampsteadbandit

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 12:49

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One of the incredibly rare times that you are wrong,

I am OFTEN wrong!!

but "YT Industries"?

are they actually the "manufacturer"

or are just the "bike company" having products made for them....overseas in Taiwan

as an example, there is a well known German brand called "Bergamont" who happen to sponsor the Winterberg bike park

you can see their logo on this wallride I am sessioning on my Mythic (Banshee) Rampant

the irony is that their bikes are actually made by Pacific Cycles in Taiwan, who also make Mythic / Banshee, Canfield and many other small brands....

Dalmando

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 12:57

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I am doubting myself actually. You may be right (sorry :oops

The only differences that i can see are that the the bearings for the rear are bigger on the double, and it has a small gusset thing near the drop-outs.

Here is a double to compare against:

Edit, i go back to what i originally said.

Quoted from the website: [Quoten]In-house developed bikes at this price? Is this feasible?
You bet! Quality and know-how don’t necessarily have to be reflected in expensive products.[/Quoten]

Therefore, we don’t use ready-made frames, but develop all of our bikes in-house. The designs are based on input and feedback of those who know it best – our team riders.
They are instrumental in defining geometry and component specification for each bike considering the area of application.

Our development engineer Stefan Willared ensures that our bikes function on trails as predicted on paper. He solely works with the most recent kinematics programmes and development tools. In terms of function he leaves nothing to chance.

hampsteadbandit

Posted: Mar 13, 2010 at 13:04

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since they don't admit they actually manufacture them, themselves, its probably b*llshit on their part

most "bike companies" will not admit that they take a "catalogue" frame and make some tweaks (which can be larger bearings, a different shaped rear dropout or gusset, or slight geometry difference) to make it "their own"

at the Pacfic factory in Taiwan there is a guy who "works" for many "brands" (Mythic / Banshee and Canfield are rare in that they actually have their own designers) and small tweaks are made to seperate them

in Taiwan, there is a resource called the "TBG" (taiwan bicycle guide) which tells potential buyers "who" makes "what" and when you get your sweaty hands on this great book (or on-line now..) you look at various manufacturers and think to yourself "hmmm, I'm sure I have seen that frame before..."

JamesDyer

Posted: Mar 14, 2010 at 1:38	Quote
thanks for the update... how did you manage to talk them to let you buy a frame only... My friend is really intrested in buying a Noton frame...

marinrockyridge

Posted: Mar 14, 2010 at 3:02	Quote
hav u ordered yet? im meant 2 b in chapple

marinrockyridge

Posted: Mar 14, 2010 at 3:42	Quote
gerrit tried the double yesterday at canford pit, he has broken his f*cking collarbone!, front wheel cased the landing

Dalmando

Posted: Mar 14, 2010 at 3:53

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JamesDyer wrote:

thanks for the update... how did you manage to talk them to let you buy a frame only... My friend is really intrested in buying a Noton frame...

Email them at '[email protected]'. I wrote a long email giving reasons why it would be good for their company to let me buy a frame.

Make sure it is polite and don't say "you offered a guy on pinkbike a frame, so offer me one to"

I posted that i managed to, to show that it is possible and that some companies my be happy to do you a one off offer, not to encourage it. However, if it is just the frame that your friend wants, then it may be worth a try. The worst that will happen is that they will say no.

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