Rock solid. Literally becomes a full face. Like I say wouldn't use it for dh,but if you mostly do rides as I do, that involve a big xc loop with either a long rocky final decent or some mini dh at points along your ride,then it's perfect.

 Brilliant, thats exactly what I would want one for, still gonna have a real full facer for days purely riding dh or fr, its for those rides you can't decide whether the full face is too much or the half shell isnt enough

 Exactly that. The amount of times I've ridden sketchy sections with a piss pot knowing I should be wearing a full,only a matter of time before you get it wrong and pay with your teeth. Problem solved. And surprisingly easy to fit while on your head,3 goes and it's learnt.

 Nice, think I know what my Christmas present to myself is haha