I already have a Marz Slope for it, thanks though!

 @Draggon: haha damn. Well I never seen you with a long travel bike. What's the Dorito for?

I need one of them for my big bike

 @Thepureface: The Dorito is for a frame to still be figured out. I did already purchase a TR450 here on PB but the seller lied when I asked about any cracks and when I got it, it was cracked in 4 places.....then it became a nightmare and complete utter PayPal claim mess, finally sorted though, thanks to the good people at PayPal. Now my good buddy is wanting me to buy his carbon Evil UnDead frame, which might happen if it fits in my budget. But as for me and long travel bikes, I did have this a while ago......not anything amazing but it was actually a great bike.....

www.pinkbike.com/photo/6500397

 @Draggon: sucks about the tr450, paypal is good though.

I think I prefer short travel bikes myself, there's barely anywhere to ride big bikes where I live

 Hahaa, perfect!!