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  • 1 0
 you might as well "race-lace" it also a DT Swiss Certified Wheel Builder, but do what you want, just saying it's not strong(er) like people who think a tied and sodered is stronger, it's there to catch broken spokes on touring so they don't pang in your face and so on, and twisting spokes is for a look, personally I wouldn't do it for the back tire, which looks to be on a trials bike, but that's just me
  • 1 0
 why would you ever trust this on the rear, i have it black and white mix on my front not too bad there
  • 2 0
 thats pretty cool man
  • 1 0
 does it make the wheel stronger or just pretty to look at?
  • 2 0
 its actualy a pretty weak way to lace a wheel. it mainly just looks good.
  • 2 4
 have you red the other comments its strong you muppet
  • 7 0
 im a wheel builder myself... a wheel acts like a large spring. having opposing spoke force from an outboard spoke towards an inboard spoke is very important. twisting spokes reduces the area of flex aloud and strains the wheel. not allowing it to flex like a big spring. that's why things like 3butted spokes are made, more flex, less strain on the wheel. longer lasting wheel that springs back to shape... also muppet??? what in the world kind of saying is that.
  • 1 1
 well its fucking strong not a bukle in it and riding hard for the last month
  • 4 0
 probly is strong. just not as strong as it would be if you were to lace it the good old fashion way.. theirs a reason we keep to standard spoke lacing procedures. if they were really that much better then you would see it being a more current process for lacing wheels. it reduces strength to a wheel and add weight due to longer spoke lengths.. im just saying man. i think it looks unique and different. just not stronger then typical lacing process as sorta mentioned
  • 1 1
 fair doos sorry bout the muppet bit Frown
  • 2 0
 dont apologies stand up man!!!
  • 3 0
 cant argue with canadians they just get you banned
  • 1 0
 lol nothing to stand up against kona--kid
  • 1 0
 i know lol i just thought it sounded cool
  • 2 0
 Triple butted spokes are made for weight weenies looking to shave grams, not because they're more "springy"

Having a wheel that feels springy instead of solid is pretty f*cking shitty, especially if you're a trials rider. Anything that makes the wheel feel stiffer is probably a good thing, be it a snowflake twisted spoke pattern or something else.
  • 1 1
 , tipple butted spoked are in fact heavier then double butted and single butted spokes are the heaviest and are made for different disciplines such as trials riding where you need more of a direct link from pedal to riding surface you have no idea what your talking about. trials and downhill are two very different categories, downhill wheels need to be more flexible to be able to take more impact, flex in a wheel is more then essential. whereas trials bikes you need as stiff as a wheel possible since u put strain on the rear wheel to lurch and such and is more part of the ridding style.
  • 1 0
 super stiff wheels never last for dh bikes!!!
  • 2 0
 The bike in the photo is a trials bike. The twisted spokes make the wheel stiffer. You say yourself trials riders need as stiff a wheel as possible.

So why the f*ck do you say in your original comment that it's weak and a bad idea?

Also, why did you start talking about DH, nobody even mentioned it.
  • 2 1
 weak doesn't mean stiff nor does it mean flexy.... week can mean many things, in this case this style of spoke lacing doesn't give the wheel the proper give needed to withstand large abuse as well as reduces its lifespand since it holds in all the energy. you always need a
certain extent of give to a wheel. you can lace a wheel that is stiff and has a small amount of give as well. the ideal wheel has a great balance between the two, using triple butted and single butted spokes allow you to variate the amount of give relative to the stiffness. using a tapered(triple butted) spoke we can change the amount of force that is applied to each spoke by distributing it using a tapered cross sectional area. this will allow fatigue and stress to be distributed throughout the wheel. tripled butted spokes can be stiff if laced properly and during great impact allows the wheel to flex thus distributing impact force threw the wheel promoting the lifespan of the wheel.

btw triple butted spokes are heavier and arnt for weight weenies. in face triple butted spokes have a cross section that is far more lager then a single butted spoke for the majority length of the spokes.. if you have ever laced a wheel which i highly doubt since you seem not to understand the physics that is within the lacing of a wheel, you would undoubtedly understand the reasoning for the used of the typical 3 and 4 cross lacing pattern. we haven't been doing it for years for no reason at all!!
  • 3 2
 Lacing a wheel is not hard, nor is understanding the physics behind the way spokes in a wheel work to distribute impact.
  • 2 2
 in other words you have nothing to say.... cause clearly you have no idea what your talking about. use some sourcing at try to piece together something that is worth my time reading. working in a shop for 5 years and lacing a few wheels as well as taking up a mechanical engineering degree makes me think that i may have a better idea of what im talking about then yourself. you state no facts and you explain nothing.
  • 3 1
 You're trying really hard to convince someone on the internet of your superior knowledge.
  • 1 2
 no sh!t Sherlock!
  • 1 0
 tbh I dont really care about all this mumbo-jumbo...it just looks cool Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Thats sick, it will never stay strong. HAHA
  • 2 0
 well i drop off a 5 fter all today and not a dicky bird has happend to it !
  • 1 0
 mine could have done with a true after every other ride, it was horrible!
  • 1 0
 nice
  • 1 0
 STONG but aint pretty







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