ahah w.e. the triumph bars rise is, i wouldnt know but i cut em down a few inches, they were too big for me before at the time, it was the greatest frame out there, but they recently put out obviously more improved frames

 the iphone i bought todays not going to be the greatest iphone out on the market in a year... same concept

 i like your comparison

 i didnt want it to turn out like a school bus when i built it up... but everyone adopted that name for it hahah

 i really like that seat, and pivitol dosent make a difference to me at all i like it the way it is

 thats so awesome still . i love the attention to detail deffinetly going the extra mile brah .