Yeah... I know what you mean about the white. I was going to get some of those, but I got JCPC instead. They are really nice too. They feel a lot better than my flybikes graphite pedals that I had on, because they are so much grippier and they too are nice and wide. Thanks for the info though looks like either choice would have made me happy The first thing I realized was that the fly pedals are really small. And dont quote me on this, but I think the jcpc's might be a bit larger than the twisteds.