depends what your doing, the tr450 is abit of a different bike, the faith is just a freeride bike, you can do downhill on it but its just meant for riding what ever you throw at it, tr450 is heavier but its a full on downhill bike, you could get a tr250 if you wanted the best of both worlds

 yeah i like the 250, im not riding any downhill at moment and i feel its a bit wasted doing what im riding at moment, so i just fancy somethong i can pedal about a bit

 yeah 250 is a mint bike but you might be better on something with less travel if your not riding much downhill, orange five is still a pretty capeable rig but would be alot better for pedaling or a lapierre zesty, like a high end all mountain bike if you still want the edge on the rough stuff with a compromise for pedal efficiency, i ride xc on my freeride bike and its not too bad if the suspensions set firm, just go for best compromise dude

 I used to pedal round Gisburn and LLandegla when i had a Prayer

 i have a prayer mondraker right?

 Yeah i had the 2010

 cant belive your selling it! feels so nice