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MrPapaGiorgio
(Apr 26, 2013 at 2:27)
Calling it a prototype is ridiculous. They simply contact the Asian maker about their portfolio of standard DH rigs and get a frame with NS-Bikes graphics in return.
Wait, i got it, the graphics are in the prototype stage.
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I've seen a few catalogue frame designs around but this one's a new one. The commencal "rip-offs" i've seen haven't had the axle on the seatstay member.
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@czlenson: Based on the fact that it's an Astro frame straight out of their catalog??? just a guess, but I'm pretty sure that's where I saw it first... And it does in fact have the same axle.
One of the usual giveaways is that it's a Horst-Link bike and the Asian "catalog" companies are notorious for using this system as they're not bound by US patent laws like most companies selling in N.America (look at how many sick horst linked bikes there are in Europe). I wonder if NS is planning on using it or if they're gonna change the rear end for production to avoid the royalties they'd have to pay to the Big S.
One of the usual giveaways is that it's a Horst-Link bike and the Asian "catalog" companies are notorious for using this system as they're not bound by US patent laws like most companies selling in N.America (look at how many sick horst linked bikes there are in Europe). I wonder if NS is planning on using it or if they're gonna change the rear end for production to avoid the royalties they'd have to pay to the Big S.
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It's fuckin' stupid to compare frames these days! Different tubes, different profile, different suspension - horst with floating damper, for sure different geometry....
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same concept.. and the seatpost clamp of a norco 
strange with all the copyright BS nowdays.. that it does not apply to bike design..
let copy a new session china,. i'll buy one for 900$ please
strange with all the copyright BS nowdays.. that it does not apply to bike design..
let copy a new session china,. i'll buy one for 900$ please
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Yeah there's more then enough different to not call it "a Commencal rip-off"... A) it's a Horst linked bike, B) I can't tell for sure if the shock is mounted to the frame not the rear swing-arm, but they'd be a big difference, and C) Commencal hardly "invented" that type of shock location/layout/frame design. The integrated seat-post bolt is something Mtn. bikes stole from BMX race frames of over a decade ago and is a GREAT idea that's seemingly slow to catch on.
@: the-mountainbart-experience : I see you;re from Inverness??? I was BORN in Inverness!!! I've got a bunch of family in W. Daviot too... I've never seen anyone on here from that little corner of the world... Very cool... FYI Macmohne didn't invent this layout either, but yeah, everyone's copied SOME part or another.
@: the-mountainbart-experience : I see you;re from Inverness??? I was BORN in Inverness!!! I've got a bunch of family in W. Daviot too... I've never seen anyone on here from that little corner of the world... Very cool... FYI Macmohne didn't invent this layout either, but yeah, everyone's copied SOME part or another.