AenomalyConstructs

@justinfoil: perhaps the best way to illustrate is to envision what occurs when a long dropper is extended along an already slack actual seat tube angle which is dictated by, and follows, the axis of the seat tube. As the dropper post is extended, the system (dropper post and saddle) will extend further back. You can try this at home by attaching a string from the bottom bracket to the saddle while cycling the dropper from slammed to full extension. When riding up a steep trail this issue is exacerbated. While the theory remains the same, a bevvy of other variables change too (ie. friction, load etc) that make an already hard thing to do (climbing) even harder than it needs to be. Taller riders especially 'get the shaft' even more so due to their reliance on longer dropper posts. With respect to fore-aft position, as the saddle rotates with the SwitchGrade it will lift up roughly 20mm and forward roughly 10mm which, in effect, alters the ending position of the saddle to mimic that of moving forward on the rails but with the added benefit of proper seated support. Moving one's saddle forward on the rails for improved climbing position is a band aid in our opinion because it creates issues in other areas (eg. groin pain, discomfort). Appreciate the opportunity to converse on this topic.

While it's hard to argue that more drop 'seems' desirable - and usually is to an extent - one thing to consider is that a long dropper means the rider will move even further back over the rear axle on steep climbs. This unweights the front wheel even more while adding to the sensation of sliding off the back of the saddle. The SwitchGrade's negative tilt accomplishes a few things: - provides support because the rear of the saddle is raised and effectively negates the grade - steepens effective seat tube angle >1 degree due to rotation - lifts the rider an addition approx 20mm again due to rotation Hope this sheds additional light on the subject.

@Muckal: it should be fine but may cause undue stress on your dropper

@Linc: Can't say thanks enough for being one of our early supporters! Won't forget it. Wow 240.

@texican: I think we have a solution for you!

@quillankr: right on!! Stoked to hear about it!

@mihauek: ha! Stay tuned...

@Balgaroth: 100% THIS! I followed the same path and, back when freeride was just getting started, many bikes on the shore had positive tilted saddles because let's face it, we ride mostly to enjoy the downhills.