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KnobbyNC edspratt's article
Jun 8, 2020 at 11:00
Jun 8, 2020
Video: Tales of Adventure in Cuba with Hans Rey - Visual Podcast Ep.8
@bman33: Orwellian language seems to be prevalent on PB these days. Apparently Calling a murderous regime murderous is hateful. Hans pointed out in the video that the Cuban people were living under physical and electronic surveillance, the infrastructure was abysmal, and the people had seen no progress since the 50s. For some reason Hans still gave a shout out to Che at the end of the video. I'm willing to give Hans a bit a pass because of how successfuly Che's image has been sold to the hip crowd, but that is exactly why we should be calling it out when we see it.
KnobbyNC edspratt's article
Jun 8, 2020 at 7:49
Jun 8, 2020
Video: Tales of Adventure in Cuba with Hans Rey - Visual Podcast Ep.8
It was barely 3 days ago that PB said they weren't ok with the status quo and now they're posting photos of communist butchers. I guess we know where they stand.
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 6, 2020 at 22:06
Jun 6, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
@friendlyfoe: "How can you be dismissive of the fact that people of color all over the united states, including many well educated successful people, are telling you that they are being tyrannized and targeted by the police. That every year we are now catching on video police officers murdering unarmed and often completely innocent people of color." I'm not being dismissive. I understand that racial inequities exist and that people are hurting as a result. That doesn't mean I have to accept the views of all that purport to represent the oppressed. Many well educated successful people of all races disagree with the goals and tactics of the BLM movement. "And your response is I don't think the American system is racist and lets not escalate tensions. How is it even possible for you to say that? When a population is tyrannized by their government it is just a matter of time before they rise up against them. People can and will get hurt along the way, but to suggest that others should live under those conditions because you're pretty comfortable says a lot about your character." Forgive me for advocating against a violent uprising, you know, I just live live here. Maybe I'd think differently if I was sitting comfortably up in Canada. I don't believe the statistics or anecdotal data justify that kind of rhetoric and many people agree with me, minorities included. A majority of minorities have a favorable opinion of local police and are in favor of hiring more police officers. We could do better of course, but we would be much better off focusing our efforts on lowering the crime rate than raging against the system every time the inevitable incident occurs. This focus on racism detracts from real reforms. I'd like to see an actual discussion on eliminating police unions, eliminating no-knock warrants, modifying use of force protocols, etc. That's my core problem with the BLM movement. Every incident of white on black violence is attributed to racism by default and must be plastered all over the news as evidence of this war on black people. We could give BLM everything they want right now and tragedies are still going to happen. There are over 15,000 murders a year in the U.S. and about 1,000 people a year are killed by police. When will institutional racism be cured? I fear never by BLM's definition. Every time some white guy does something stupid or evil we will be right back where we started. "As far as BLM I mean who cares. They might be leading the movement but no one is talking about putting them in charge of government and the extreme ends of their rhetoric will never be supported by the population. Besides it's only logical to suggest views more extreme than what you're actually trying to achieve so that you can meet the other side half way. It's basic bargaining." First, thats an incredibly generous take for BLM. I doubt anyone would get upvotes on here for saying don't worry about that far-right organization, their rhetoric will never be supported and they're basically just bargaining. Secondly, I wouldn't be so sure. BLM is obviously a pretty powerful movement as evidenced by the fact were discussing it on this site. Antifa has had free reign in the streets for the past week, far-left ideologues have an iron grip on our university system, and a socialist almost won the Democratic presidential nomination the last two cycles. Third, their extreme rhetoric is held in check by reasonable people stepping up and saying something despite mainstream pressure not to.
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 6, 2020 at 14:12
Jun 6, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
@LeDuke: Its a loaded statement because it implies our culture and institutions do not adequately value black lives. I think this is a terrible staring point for debate. I also don't believe the BLM movement is interested in unity or compromise. Check out their official twitter feeds and you will see some disturbing rhetoric. I posted a quote from BLM Chicago's twitter earlier that celebrated the burning of the Amazon distribution center. PB deleted it. It poisons what could be fruitful discussions on topics like police reform. You can't engage in good faith reforms when you know one side really wants to burn it all down.
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 6, 2020 at 13:36
Jun 6, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
@friendlyfoe: If my primary concern was not being labeled a racist I would never have commented. There are thousands of organizations whose mission and goal is to help minority communities and address inequalities. You can promote these causes and denounce acts of racism without accepting BLM's presupposition that American culture is systematically racist and does not equally value black lives. The BLM movement is forcing public compliance with its deceptively innocuous message, while its base pursues and promotes a radical agenda. Reparations, Marxist, and anti-white rhetoric are all closely tied to the movement. You can see it for yourself in their twitter feeds. My concern and opinion is that BLM's divisive message is escalating tensions and doing more harm than good. At least two innocent black men were killed by rioters this week.
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 6, 2020 at 10:56
Jun 6, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
@LeDuke: "Do you understand the difference between believing in an idea (that black lives matter) and endorsing a political organization?" Of course I do, everyone supports the idea that black lives matter. The problem is that it is a deliberately politically loaded slogan that includes a broader agenda and a specific set of presuppositions. That agenda is advanced via the organization and the hashtag. Its very much like "Make America Great Again." I disagree with the premise and the agenda, hence why I downvoted the "#blacklivesmatter" post.
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 6, 2020 at 9:45
Jun 6, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
This is disgusting: BLMChicago @BLMChi Oh fiddlesticks. what a shame. oh well! ????????‍♀️????????‍♀️????????‍♀️????????‍♀️ Quote Tweet Adele Supreme @adelewashere · 17h Amazon distribution center in Redlands, Ca is on fire. #2020
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 6, 2020 at 8:51
Jun 6, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
@mgolder: "Just depressing that these racists are so cowardly about what they think is 'right' that they aren't brave enough to just come out and say it" Despite your preemptive accusation, I posted by reasons for downvoting. 58 downvotes for me and counting and not a single post refuting my points. I suppose they are cowards?
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 5, 2020 at 23:59
Jun 5, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
@AllMountin: This is just one of many issues with BLM. Its very name implies that a significant number of people don't care about black lives and tacitly labels its opponents as racist. I and many others reject the premise and disagree with their tactics and rhetoric.
KnobbyNC brianpark's article
Jun 5, 2020 at 23:28
Jun 5, 2020
Race & Accessibility in the Mountain Bike Community
@Mini-Pinner: Thanks for the post. You fleshed out a lot of what I was getting at. The presumption of correctness of BLM's position and handling is a serious issue here. The body of the article treats some pretty controversial BLM positions as fact and then wraps it up with an explicit endorsement. That's an incredible move for a mountain bike website and what prompted me to post. I'm equal parts shocked and concerned that BLM's rhetoric has permeated our culture to the point that a Canadian mountain bike website felt compelled to post this. I wouldn't expect PB to endorse Trump or Trudeau, so why hitch their wagon to the highly politicized BLM. Does PB intend to endorse defunding the police, reparations, Marxism? You'll find all that and more on BLM's website and various twitter feeds, not to mention some of the vile things associated with the hashtag. I had to roll my eyes at some of the cliches here but I'm on board with the bike related stuff. Promote minority involvement in cycling - Cool. Feature minority voices on the website - Cool. Crack down on overtly racist comments/posters - Cool. I don't see how it's relevant on this site, but I'm with the 99.9% of people against police brutality and for putting criminal cops in prison. I'm disappointing that PB felt the need to jump on the America is systematically racist bandwagon. The author freely admits he doesn't intend to offer any solutions, so what's the point other than declaring yourself not racist? Don't worry PB, BLM isn't offering any solutions either.
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