TheWanderer

Judging by this thread, the elitist assholes seem to be able to whine with the best of them.

Not a face plant at all. He doesn't like new tech, so he just needs to go back to low tech because everything he rides was new tech at some point. But we all know people talk out their ass, so it's obviously about his personal choices and his chosen level of bike tech just so happens to coincide with what he thinks is the acceptable max limit of tech. How convenient.

What I'm saying is, there is always somebody better who wants harder riding and possibly stuff you'll never be able to ride. So, when it comes to complaints, how the trails should be harder, just how hard are we talking about? Hard enough without making it unrideable by you I assume. That seems to be the going trend. When people say hard, they are going by their own version of hard which is their own personal limits. How about we just build everything so extreme, nobody can ride them until they reach an extreme level of perfection. Who gets to set the rules here? I didn't know only the elitists get to set the rules on what mountain biking is about. Oh wait, it's the middle elitists, not the top elitists, because nobody would be riding much if the top riders only had their way.

As if you didn't take it to the extreme? Bitching about 29ers and how tracks and trails get crowded with people and the sport is lost? Please! The only reason we even have trails showing up in the state parks around here is because of the interest and ability for novice and intermediates to ride, which is the majority of riders around here. If it was just a few elitist assholes looking to build double black diamonds, the parks would tell them to go F themselves, which is exactly what was happening and why it took so long for parks to finally agree to host mountain bike trail systems. It took a lot of meetings and effort by bike clubs to insure that the trail system will support all tax paying citizens, not just a few elitists. As for becoming to crowded, you must not ride as hard as you claim. Because if you did, you'd be on the harder trails with other experienced riders who shouldn't be holding you up and crowding you.

Totally agree. That's exactly what I don't get about so many of the attitudes in here. Proper level trails keeps proper level riders on those trails and away from harder stuff. As you say, if only harder trails existed, lower level riders would be walking and falling and blocking the trails constantly and ruining any potential fun the higher level riders may have had anyway.

Why not just ride an old banana seat road bike on the trails if you're so awesome and need a bigger challenge? Cause, you do know, even 26er mountain bikes were specifically made to make trail riding easier, which you don't like.

Maybe you should go back to riding a banana seat bike in order to challenge yourself.

If you can read, then I can explain it, dthomp325..... Easier trails keep novices away from the harder trails. Which means the gnarly stuff you enjoy doesn't have novices walking or falling all over the place and blocking the trails. If you are constantly being stopped by lesser riders, then you are clearly not riding the harder trails that you claim you can. There shouldn't be traffic jams on gnarly trails because the experience riders should be making their way through them, right? Logic seems to win over your "stopping 30 times" argument. As for camping, are you actually suggesting that the novice mountain biker population has expanded so much that they are the cause of all the camp sites to be filled up? Correct me if I'm wrong, but more goes on in state and national parks then just mountain biking. Parks in my area, without a single mountain bike trail, are still always packed. Logic wins again.

So, you must be riding an old banana seat road bike on the trails, huh? Mountain bikes didn't always exist, they were created to make trail riding easier. Since you don't like things easier, you need to go back to riding some of the first bikes ever built. I believe they were walking bikes without pedals. Actually, you can't even use that. You must stick to walking, because anything else makes things easier, right?

So, you must be riding a 20" unicycle, tsefreeflow? Or are you making things easier by riding a two wheeled 26er? Why aren't you just using a road bike, cause mountain bikes haven't always existed, you know. Mountain bikes just made it easier to ride trails. HMM! I find it rather pathetic that you even use a bike. Maybe you just hike on one leg, that should make it pretty hard.