rabidmonkfish

Let me just say the camera does not do this justice. Please do not make the mistake of thinking this looks easy. I for one can vouch that it's (for me anyway) insanely difficult to cycle much over half way up this route before it becomes too steep.

I tried this once and only managed to cycle a little over halfway before the trail got so steep I couldn't weight the front without it lifting whilst still having enough traction to grip at the rear and move forward. Was a brutal hike a bike after that as I was slogging 14.5kg of bike along for the climb. Downhill made up for it a bit but it's not something I'm keen to relive. If anyone has actually fully cycled up must have used a much less steep route up than what myself (and buy the looks of it these guys) used.

By informed opinion do you mean one that aligns with yours?. I think at this point we should separate pinkbike into two entirely separate sites with one for e-bikers and one for mountain bikers. It's what a lot of commenters have been asking for anyway. For reference I have ridden an ebike (a fairly recent cube stereo) and didn't like it. It felt too easy even on the lowest setting but to be fair I don't want any assistance in my rides other than riding a well put together bike (which in itself is already a massive help compared to some of the early 90's mtb's I still keep and use). I just don't think you can have such polarising takes on what mtb's are and still get along. Most of us I imagine certainly don't begrudge someone needing an ebike but now that some ebikes have more torque than a small passenger car we all need to admit this has gone way too far as is simply ridiculous to be considered cycling anymore. It can't be fun or help the ebike community to come on here and read all these negative comments. I freely admit that I post negative things about them when I think there being advertised or encouraged to be considered cooler versions of normal mountain bikes as I see the downside of the explosion of more people hitting the trails (quite literally) who otherwise wouldn't be anywhere near them. I commend you for your trail manners but let's be honest e-bikers generally don't behave like you. Most are quite the opposite and simply don't have any problem with turbo'ing past people on narrow trails only to then get in the way 5 mins later when things get more technical and that is my informed opinion.

Why don't they just ride any of the modern xc bikes with there ever growing travel numbers🥴

I want one. It looks awesome 😎

E-bikes were always going to ruin MTB. Remember when e-bikes were marketed as assistance bikes for the elderly or people with disabilities and not the bro-peds they are now👎

I can't believe that some losers here are trying to use mental gymnastics in an attempt to justify why they need more torque than a small passenger car has on their damn e-bike

I remember them....occasionally still laugh at the riders who used them. I remember them as placebo stickers but yeh what a joke they were. I'm not suprised mass dampers are ending up on some xc bikes as dare I say some people are easily/too trusting possibly superstitious so will sometimes give products I would see as "snake oil" a go on there bikes.

Keep trying to tell us that "we" want the 32's and the makers are only making what we want....sure it's not more like everyone jumping on the the bandwagon of a new standard... nobody I know is asking for 32's. Sure some tall people could make use of them but I never heard anyone asking for a bigger wheel size untill articles like this started telling us that we asked for them.

https://youtu.be/VeA1jva5JWM?is=vQ8DVZ2fHNA38Bob At the 10:40 mark...