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Stop the Hate

Jul 9, 2010 at 19:35
by Willy Sinclair  
Just a short blog voicing my concerns about the hate on PB.My one true problem with pinkbike is the straight up unnecessary hate between bmxers and mtbers. I know I really shouldn't talk cause I've hated on mtber's before but really sometimes its deserved. Like seriously, on most occasions pinkbike photo comments become nothing more then school yard pissing matches between MTBer's and BMXer's. Every time a bmx photo gets P.O.D. MTBer's come out of the wood work to rip it apart for no reason even tho on most occasions BMX P.O.D.s are straight up hands down better then anything that a mountain bike P.O.D. will be. From my experience on this site most of the BMX P.O.D.s are actually tricks, and actually look nice, compared to the MTB P.O.D.s which either consist of a mountain bike turning a corner and throwing some dust up, or an MTBer falling in an awkward position.

My friend (bmxzach) recently got P.O.D. for a really well composed, well lit, great photo, and within minutes mtbers were flaming the hell out of it for no reason, and it was the first bmx P.O.D. in a while (13 MTB P.O.D.s were between his and the last bmx P.O.D., 6 of those pix in my opinion didn't deserve P.O.D.) and then the day after that there was another bmx P.O.D. which was awesome 2 in a row yay, and swiftly the mtb's came down from the mountains and flamed it as well. I don't understand why this has to happen, there is no bloody reason for it.

Honestly 78% of the members have to grow the hell up and stop hating for no reason, we all ride bikes, we all share the same passion of going out, hanging with friends and having some good sessions. I ride with MTBer's every now and then and I have no reason to hate on them, they're good people, so are BMXer's. I understand this site was created years ago to share the love of MTB, but times have changed and now it should be embracing both BMX and MTB, and pushing both our sports forward and not turning every conversation into a gigantic pissing match. I don't see why MTBer's have to throw it in our faces that this site is a MTB only site, it doesn't say it anywhere, and it never will, because I'm sure the creators love BMX as much as MTB, if not the actual riding of a BMX then atleast the idea of riding a BMX.

I don't see why you think you are so much more superior than us? Are you on two wheels? Are we? Yes we are so there is no difference, sure your bikes have suspension and you take them off big ass drops, but we do burly shit too, sometimes burlier shit than you guys. And really, If it wasn't for bmx, and the whole racing scene back in the 60's and 70's none of us would be doing the sport that we love.

So in closing shut the f*ck up, ride your damn bike and stop hating on us and we'll stop hating on you, spread the love and keep it rubber side down.

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44 Comments
  • 21
 I agree with and respect the point you are making here, but statements like this "even tho on most occasions BMX P.O.D.s are straight up hands down better then anything that a mountain bike P.O.D. will be." only perpetuate the mentality and hate that you are trying to prevent here. Hating haters is still hating. That said, I agree that there shouldn't be such a line in the sand and so much animosity between members of the same community.
  • 20
 well judging by the handful of bmx pods that have shown up lately compared to the recent trend of corner turning or ladder riding or falling mtb pods lately my point about bmx pods being better holds some validity, sure there are some great mtb pods out there, and alot of great pix that could very well be pod, but they get over shadowed by the corner turning, ladder riding, stupid falling pods, I think the people that choose the pod, shud put more effort into it so we stop getting the lame ass boring pix, either that or make a bmx pod and a mtb pod, that there alone will kill off a lot of the hate
  • 10
 So, what you are saying is that it is ok for you (BMXer) to hate on MTB PODS, but it is not ok for MTBers to hate on BMX PODS? There are definitely some VERY good bmx pods, I was stoked that Zach got POD for that awesome shot, I enjoyed his shots of your riding, and I have nothing but love for BMX in general, but do you see how hypocritical you are being right now?
  • 10
 ok maybe my view is a lil skewed but can you honestly sit there and say u get excited by watching a guy turn a corner and kick up a lil dust? like in a video thats epic cause u can see the movement and see the speed and you can feel what he feels but from a picture it looks like every other picture of a guy turning a corner and kicking up dust, im not hating on them as much as im annoyed that the mtb side of the pod equation consists of cornering, falling, riding ladder bridges and the occasional awesome exciting drop/trick/creative photo, and my riding sucks, i hate the pictures i get cause they're the same thing, over and over and over again, so maybe its not so much im hating on the mtb pods for being the same as much as its me hating on my self for doing the same thing over and over. I just want a little bit of variety in the pods thats all not the same corner turning falling bull crap over and over, the pod people shud actually go and look at the pix on this site there are some amazing ones out there that will never get pod cause either the rider isn't pro or cause hes not turning a corner at high speed and kicking up some dust
  • 10
 "can you honestly sit there and say u get excited by watching a guy turn a corner and kick up a lil dust?"

Me, not usually. But to somebody, that is the best picture they have ever seen. In the end it all boils down to preference. Photographic preference, bike preference, etc.... You can't just hate on something because it isn't your cup of tea. Just be a bit more open minded and try to find some artistic or educational value in it.

Here, let me put it to you like this. A wise man (you) once said (above) "we all ride bikes, we all share the same passion of going out, hanging with friends and having some good sessions" ....This is the open mindedness you need to perpetuate, not hate and blind criticism. Cornering, falling, riding ladder bridges are all part of biking whether it fits into your agenda or not.

I also think that having separate BMX and MTB pods would segregate the community even more.

Sorry to argue dude, I still have nothing but respect for you.
  • 10
 i dont think it would segregate the community...mainly because if mtbers dont wanna see a bmx pod they dont have to look at it cause they'll have they're own and if they do look at it and start hating on it then it will just prove my point the 78% of the people on here are childish and need to grow up.

And as for finding artistic or educational value in the PODs its nearly impossible when they all look the same.

Henry Ford once said "you can have it any color, as long as that color is black" do you wanna live in a world where everything is black?
  • 10
 I think being open-minded would be a better solution than 2 pods because open-mindedness is the only hope in hell of the BMX and MTB community ever seeing eye to eye.

The pods only look the same when you are being closed minded and not even giving them a chance.

Black is not a colour. Razz
  • 10
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/5041905

www.pinkbike.com/photo/5240187

not much difference except ones on a bridge and ones on rocks, the lighting is a lil better in the bridge photo thats about it

and 2 pods would be much easier because there are some mtbers that are just shit talking idiots, and same with bmxers, atleast with 2 pods you can pinpoint the idiots and deal with them, because there are definitely some repeat offenders in both groups

open mindedness will never happen, its bad enuff that 99% of everyone hates skaters, scooter kids and roller bladers, even tho they're pretty much doing the exact same thing we are, just with a different vehicle
  • 10
 Now you're just being silly. My point is obviously lost on you. Good day.
  • 10
 lols i just posted the pix as a joke there is a great amount of difference between the two and i actually like the bridge one Razz

and in my opinion segregation would be the best way to end the hate, kinda like splitting kids that are fighting up helps...some what
  • 10
 I ride both, would I be homeless?????
  • 10
 lols we'd both be homeless i guess if u wanna put it that way lol, i ride mtb from time to time lol
  • 10
 I like bikes. I also like good pictures of any discipline. I hate haters too. Wurd.
  • 10
 I agree with that statement, now if only one else did
  • 10
 We could just start cracking skulls until people agree with us. lol

Like the last scene of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. tup

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjWFZPJZTxU
  • 10
 we shud, we'll get zach to take pix so people kno we mean business so we don't have to crack too many skulls
  • 10
 I like the way you think. Salute
  • 10
 i also like the way i think hahaha, tho i still think 2 pods is better then one
  • 10
 If you give two separate pods, then people will be like "we need a DH pod and a XC pod" and it will never end. If you start catering to one group of people, every other group will expect the same treatment. Next thing you know we have 15 pods a day.
  • 10
 hmmmm yea i guess
  • 10
 Equal rights have to be equal for everyone or nobody at all LOL.
  • 10
 tru tru, i just everyone would just realize that we're all here for the good of the sport
  • 10
 Truth.

It's been fun man. Salute Epic debate. Beer
  • 10
 agreed lol...i think this is the longest ive been on pinkbike without getting banned Razz
  • 10
 Definitely the most thought I have put into my posts in a very long time hahaha.
  • 10
 lol...well...its always good to put the brain to use every once in a while lol
  • 10
 Brain Judo.
  • 11
 Im sorry but dude shut the f*ck up yourself, take you bike back to the race track, what makes you guys better. because you have small wheels? no suspension?
See where im going
  • 20
 shut the fuck up seriously
  • 20
 plus 2348527905798342897348x^2 ...... srsly.. no mater how u look at it.. a bike comprises of , 2wheels, frame/forks, handle bars, drivetrain(unless ur tuc lol jks), and a seat Blank Stare



ride ur bike dont hate on other riding genres, as they all require skill.


and will no worries i understand ur anger towards hatersWink
  • 10
 about time you write this up haha
  • 10
 i came up with the idea yesterday or the day before that lol...eff you hater Razz
  • 20
 lol you told me you were going to, i agree with reck down there though, you fucked up haha
  • 10
 i told you i was going to...two days ago...so i did it...two days later...not like i said i was gonna do it and then a year later i still havent lol
  • 10
 haha, fair enough
  • 10
 like geez 2 days isnt that long especially cause i went riding yesterday and the day before then came home and slept pretty much so blah u
  • 10
 i like this blog it actually has a cause lol
  • 10
 thanx man Smile
  • 10
 yah no problem i dont see the reason to hate you no i like mtb better but i still like bmx but im not out there in some guys face about but both mtbers an bmxers can be assholes an noone can deny that
  • 10
 oh yea definitely there are a lot of assholes out there for no reason and im trying to end that, and not just between bmx and mtb but between bikers and like skaters and everyone really
  • 10
 yeh there are some sick skaters out there for sure
  • 10
 nice hate blog to stop the hate man
  • 10
 lols goof







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