Abstract: I ride a bike with a RS Lyrik Attached BUT am bored of the anti XC riders vibe so often flung around
Essay: In response to those of believe those riders were not displaying the skills requisite of having 'shredded' and 'pushed the envelope of gnar' on those descents I would like to point out a few basic principles of physics, our sport, and equality. Those riders were riding down what is a bloody steep hill in parts with a greasy-when-wet surface (yes I have ridden there, more than once on a 'proper' bike) at speeds which though not flashy-for-the-camera as so often, and brilliantly, displayed by individuals such as Gas to Flat Brayton, when we condisder the limitations of their steeds - narrow bars for aero and cardiovascular reasons, thin, skinny, low profile tires for resistance and acceleration reasons, high standover's mitigated by designing a frame which is stiff, light, and yet strong enough to handle the abuse (yes I said it) handed out by a modern day XC racer, and other factors which we all know dont lead to a machine which is natrually shredable - long stems, relatively flexy wheels, high PSI is tires and shocks, short travel forks, steep head angles, and SPD's which are more akin to the restrictiveness and stiffness of a road pedal - not all SPD's are created equal after all - then I think they did pretty well. Especially as they can be at the bottom of the hill after run two before the uplift truck has finished loading 30 DH'ers and their bikes. I suspect 80% of mtb'ers could get away with, learn more, and dare I say go faster on a bike closer to what they ride than their current steed - especially in the UK. If anyone doubts any of what I say watch the UCI XC racing - I found it an enlightening experience to just how capable the modern MTB and more important a skilled MTB'er is.
I've no doubt they are very talented, but I still didn't really 'get' the video - it lacked something... Speed, risk or excitement perhaps? I don't want to have a downer on them (they can clearly handle a bike and are fitter than I will ever be!) - it's not their fault but I just don't think xc is as involving to watch (for me). Perhaps I've been spoiled with all the usual PB vids!
I hope nobody thinks I'm criticising the riders or film - best of luck to all of them!
Downhill has become such the media darling of mountain biking that XC is more challenging to market, especially in video. Maybe focus more on the personalities and less on the action.
In some ways I sorta miss the spandex days because it is more comfortable for riding, especially the long hour xc rides. Now it seems it's only acceptable for racing and roadies, but someday it will come back, that's a cycle that will repeat.
not the sort riding i do, tho i still have respect for them. fair play to them being able to handle bikes with that set up on those trails. reckon they would be faster than most people on bigger bikes by using the skills they have rather than relying on the bike. wouldn't mind trying out a full race spec xc bike tho, bet it would make the local trails bit more lairy
I don't care what anyone thinks, cross country is tons of fun; and I'm glad to see this demographic somewhat accepts it. Mountain biking didn't start with 8" travel monsters that are as tough as trucks. XC riding may not be as technically involved as downhill or enduro, but mixing in technical sections with long tough climbs and 2 plus hours of riding and it can be just as fun and hard as our other forms of riding; and slimboyjim's point is great, if XC was more front page on pinkbike we would enjoy watching it more.
Must also take intro consideration that the riders are doing a "demo" run for the cameras and the sponsors. They roll slower, and care more for the image and less for the riding. Also, there's a dude who says that it's their first run the new GT's.
If you wnat hardcore xc riding there's plenty of footage from world cup runs.
Have a look at the PMB XC course from last years first round WC race. There was a super steep step section, a 1m drop and some serious rock gardens - not something I'd have ridden easily or at all on a dual sus or AM bike. The XC pro's generally have superb bike handling skills because they have to.
it's weird they weren't on dual suspension 26 for that trail, they'd probably descend faster on a 26, but if all the other courses they are hitting are better for 29 I can understand them trying to promote the 29 first
I started riding in 2001 and I rode XC. It was all that I had been exposed to. Maybe there were DH and DJ and full suspension floaty bikes to be had then but mine was a short travel hard tail Cannondale. This year I made the move to the road. That move also got my off road tires back onto my hardtail. I was excited to get back into the forest but now that I watch this video I really want to get out there. Hurry up spring, melt away this snow!! Great job selling XC to the masses again!
I am old enough to remember when the Zaskar was your "one bike". That bike is a classic. The fact that it is still being raced means it is a great design.
I wish these guys good luck in their upcoming season.
surely a dropper seatpost would make xc racing so much easier. Sometimes its pretty cool to see guys with seats right up there arses riding jumps and doing whips.
It is SO hard to ride with your seat high. I have a dropper post on both my XC bikes and the difference in bunny-hopping a log or trying to pump a hump is massive between pedalling height and 'rip it' height.
The seats are way up high with a steep seat tube angle, that puts the seat right in your way when you lean the bike over. You're stuck either steering with the wheels, or leaning your body over at the same angle as the bike, which isn't good technique.
In this case it's more the bike than the rider keeping them from cornering well.
A dropper post would fix most of that and generally allow them to flick the bike around more.
Abstract: I ride a bike with a RS Lyrik Attached BUT am bored of the anti XC riders vibe so often flung around
Essay: In response to those of believe those riders were not displaying the skills requisite of having 'shredded' and 'pushed the envelope of gnar' on those descents I would like to point out a few basic principles of physics, our sport, and equality. Those riders were riding down what is a bloody steep hill in parts with a greasy-when-wet surface (yes I have ridden there, more than once on a 'proper' bike) at speeds which though not flashy-for-the-camera as so often, and brilliantly, displayed by individuals such as Gas to Flat Brayton, when we condisder the limitations of their steeds - narrow bars for aero and cardiovascular reasons, thin, skinny, low profile tires for resistance and acceleration reasons, high standover's mitigated by designing a frame which is stiff, light, and yet strong enough to handle the abuse (yes I said it) handed out by a modern day XC racer, and other factors which we all know dont lead to a machine which is natrually shredable - long stems, relatively flexy wheels, high PSI is tires and shocks, short travel forks, steep head angles, and SPD's which are more akin to the restrictiveness and stiffness of a road pedal - not all SPD's are created equal after all - then I think they did pretty well. Especially as they can be at the bottom of the hill after run two before the uplift truck has finished loading 30 DH'ers and their bikes. I suspect 80% of mtb'ers could get away with, learn more, and dare I say go faster on a bike closer to what they ride than their current steed - especially in the UK. If anyone doubts any of what I say watch the UCI XC racing - I found it an enlightening experience to just how capable the modern MTB and more important a skilled MTB'er is.
Carry on.
I hope nobody thinks I'm criticising the riders or film - best of luck to all of them!
Ps. Seems an odd place to launch a xc team!
Also, there's a dude who says that it's their first run the new GT's.
If you wnat hardcore xc riding there's plenty of footage from world cup runs.
I think this was in Houffalize... Emily Batty was launching this! On her 29er hardtail...
I wish these guys good luck in their upcoming season.