Enh, I don't think either look awful... I don't like the forward lean on the Shimano's compared to the more abrupt function/form look of the Red. I think both designs stay true to the style of their groups though, so given my preference for Red in general I'm not real surprised I prefer them.
The worst part about them imo is that they're STI. I can't stand swinging the whole break lever to shift.
Sram levers don't allow you to shift when braking right? I've had situations when I had to grab brakes due to a friend suddenly slowing down in front of me; I downshifted while braking and my gears were ready right when I left go of the brakes and had to put the gas on.
Sram levers don't allow you to shift when braking right? I've had situations when I had to grab brakes due to a friend suddenly slowing down in front of me; I downshifted while braking and my gears were ready right when I left go of the brakes and had to put the gas on.
You can shift and brake whenever you want with SRAM... the levers are totally separate. That's just a matter of dexterity and lever position really. I frequently downshift while coming to a stop or slowing down for a corner or whatever. In fact that's one thing that I really like about SRAM vs STI, your brake lever is always in teh same position with the same feel and modulation instead of being swung inboard as your shifting/braking.
Fair enough. I only had a few hours on the Sram-equipped bike (Rival grouppo...) and I just found that the controls weren't as intuitive as the Shimanos were. I'd love to give a Red-equipped bike a go though as my experience was crap (rival..)!
I've been unfortunate on Red, Rival and Force (I think it's Force) shifters. Snapping all of the left hand shifter paddles as they are just too stiff for my liking. But I can understand why people like them as they are really easy to maintain and not impossible to service, unlike Shimano where it is almost impossible. Campagnolo however, I haven't has a single problem (the higher end stuff) with myself but have heard of some rear derailleurs cracking under heavy load.
I wanted to like Red but found it overly squishy... I loved my Duracci for years until I tasted SR11 EPS... Now I'm excitedly intrigued by the manage a trios of Colnago, Campagnolo and Formula, I can't wait to fondle this love child.
Same. (I totally don't own a pair...) Most of my friends love 'em. Might be because they're running shallow, stealthed out wheelsets and they got bored of it? Funny because I really want shallow/stealth wheels for days when I'm just trying to do well on climbs.