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flag Theeeeo
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 at 12:07 Quote
Hey guys, I'm looking at purchasing a fox 36 180mms purely for FR and the benefit of descent
I know the fox 36 float runs similar technology to the fox 40, but what's the difference between the float and talas? If it's something insignificant like a climbing platform I really don't care and will probably buy the talas over the float, any information would be much appreciated,
many thanks guys
flag christopheryang
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 at 12:31 Quote
Theeeeo wrote:
Hey guys, I'm looking at purchasing a fox 36 180mms purely for FR and the benefit of descent
I know the fox 36 float runs similar technology to the fox 40, but what's the difference between the float and talas? If it's something insignificant like a climbing platform I really don't care and will probably buy the talas over the float, any information would be much appreciated,
many thanks guys

TALAS: Travel Adjust Linear Air Spring

A TALAS fork has two positions of travel that can be adjusted on the fly. The shorter travel position is typically used for climbing, and the longer travel position for descents. There is no middle ground between the two positions, so you either have 160 or 130 (or 150 or 120). Some people with TALAS forks claim it's a useless feature because they never flip the switch while they're riding.
flag Mountain-Dalek
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 at 12:32 Quote
Hi.

A 36 Talas is basically a 36 Float on which you can adjust travel length by toggling a switch (like from 130 to 160mm)

For FR you're better with a 36 Float. Talas is good if you climb a lot then descend fast. Full damper service is more tricky on the Talas and need more oil.

Cheers
flag Theeeeo
Posted: Jun 14, 2016 at 20:45 Quote
Cheers for the replies guys, pretty certain I'm sorted out now so thanks for the help, ill definitely try my best to get the floats, but I'm finding them so hard to come by
flag tomertrx
Posted: Aug 10, 2016 at 19:27 Quote
Fox no longer makes a 180mm fork in 27.5. But you can fit a 27.5 tire In a 26 fork. That is what I have to do and we'll be getting my fork tomorrow.
flag mtnryder56
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Posted: Sep 6, 2016 at 21:14 Quote
I will say that I found the reduction in travel feature on my last talas fork to be useful for long fireroad climbs. Basically put it in the cinched down position for climbing to the top of the dh trail. Then adjust it back up to plush for the dh.

That being said, I have a 36 float right now and it climbs fine, but that might be the new bike too.
flag AOshred
Posted: Feb 23, 2017 at 6:30 Quote
Hi all, question: I really like the idea of the TALAS system.
Why do most reviewers and riders prefer a FLOAT system over a TALAS because it feels better?
Can't find a proper in depth answer on the internet. I know about max 160mm air version, which is a negative for me.
Are there any others?
flag christopheryang
Posted: Feb 23, 2017 at 13:14 Quote
AOshred wrote:
Hi all, question: I really like the idea of the TALAS system.
Why do most reviewers and riders prefer a FLOAT system over a TALAS because it feels better?
Can't find a proper in depth answer on the internet. I know about max 160mm air version, which is a negative for me.
Are there any others?

to each his own...
flag AOshred
Posted: Feb 26, 2017 at 5:53 Quote
christopheryang wrote:
AOshred wrote:
Hi all, question: I really like the idea of the TALAS system.
Why do most reviewers and riders prefer a FLOAT system over a TALAS because it feels better?
Can't find a proper in depth answer on the internet. I know about max 160mm air version, which is a negative for me.
Are there any others?

to each his own...

Thanks for your knowledgable insights...
flag PhillipJ
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Posted: Feb 26, 2017 at 23:33 Quote
AOshred wrote:
Hi all, question: I really like the idea of the TALAS system.
Why do most reviewers and riders prefer a FLOAT system over a TALAS because it feels better?
Can't find a proper in depth answer on the internet. I know about max 160mm air version, which is a negative for me.
Are there any others?

The TALAS uses a coil negative spring so unless you're within the design weight range (which Fox won't specify) it will be too soft (less small bump sensitivity) or too stiff (reduced travel, excessive dive).


It is not possible to use volume adjust spacers with the TALAS.


The spring volume is quite small so it is a high-pressure and quite progressive spring.
flag PhillipJ
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Posted: Feb 26, 2017 at 23:34 Quote
Mountain-Dalek wrote:
Hi.
Full damper service is more tricky on the Talas and need more oil.

Cheers


The damper is in the other leg...
flag jasonwd
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Posted: May 23, 2017 at 10:34 Quote
After years of using my TALAS RC2 I had my local repair shop (S4 Suspension) remove the TALAS assembly and replace it with a simple Float top cap. The difference was incredible; way way more sensitive and able to eat up chatter.

I'm at or below the minimum pressure for the TALAS air spring which made it very sticky.
flag bendter15
Posted: Jul 11, 2017 at 8:29 Quote
I have a talas fork I can adjust from 150 to 120 and I love having the option to have shorter travel for climbing/most normal trail riding but then also love having the extra inch for the down hills...it's like having two bikes in one…I think the only negative about talas forks is they are heavier, but I'm more into fun on the down hills then I am in going a little bit faster on the uphills...
flag austenselk
Posted: Jul 29, 2017 at 11:16 Quote
My question is this, can you change out the FIT4/RC2 damper on the 2017 Fox 36 Float to the TALAS damper? I'm just wanting verification as I can easily find and buy the Float but the Talas is much more harder to come by. Especially for 29ers.
flag PhillipJ
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Posted: Jul 31, 2017 at 14:55 Quote
Talas is a type of air spring. It's not a damper.
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