Video: Times Like These

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moslow (Dec 21, 2013 at 5:53)

I don't get it? I never understood why californians have to drive out of state for epic riding or big mountain riding. Its funny because i know a few riders out west who say they are tired of Cali trails. From my visits there I've always looked up at all the massive hills/mountains and am in such envy being an east coast rider. I mean, with 16 peaks well over 13,000 ft, why wouldn't California have some awesome big mountain riding or some of the best terrain for world class Epic trails/DH/enduro events. IMHO, theres no reason Cali cant be a destination with the fame of BC, UT etc.

moslow (Dec 21, 2013 at 5:54)

Nonetheless, awesome stuff...

taletotell (Dec 21, 2013 at 6:28)

I'm guessing it is a government problem. Utah is notoriously recreation friendly. If Cali is anything like NY (and I suspect it is) they haven't figured out how good it is to have cycle-tourism. Our neighbors here (Vermont and Penn) have more races and trails than us. They'll figure it out and make bike friendly legislation some day, allowing more trails to be built and restrictions to be reduced.

cheezey-its (Dec 21, 2013 at 6:49)

Here in Cali. were spoiled

ctmtb98 (Dec 21, 2013 at 6:57)

yeah I hav a friend in cali and he says basically ur not allowed to touch the woods, darn hippies

hunter100weiss (Dec 21, 2013 at 7:07)

People say Cali has no good trails? Let me list a few EPIC places...
Big Bear
Mammoth
Idyllwild
Tahoe/Northstar
The Redwoods up North/Oregon Border

ctmtb98 (Dec 21, 2013 at 7:08)

ya, well you cnt go build trails though, plus my friend lives in cali and good riding for him his a far especially for freeride.

hunter100weiss (Dec 21, 2013 at 7:09)

I'm building a dh trail behind my house in San Diego... As long as we keep it clean of trash people dont care

cheezey-its (Dec 21, 2013 at 7:12)

Yeah... me and a bunch of friends have tried to build tons of trails and every single one has gotten torn down.

ctmtb98 (Dec 21, 2013 at 7:20)

ya that sucks dude, here in CT, trails don't get torn down too often, mostly annoying hikers that tear them down.

Bdusty1 (Dec 21, 2013 at 7:21)

Wev'e got 3 dh trails almost goin out here, but yes its best too keep on the hush hush! Some peeps don't like the fact that were tearing up the ground/land! O well not harming much, infact all the wildlife around use the trials, haha quiet funny!

aztrack2010 (Dec 21, 2013 at 9:12)

Cali has great terrain but they definitely have a government problem. The Marines are even strictly regulated with the digging they can do on Camp Pendleton, it's crazy!

raymond-george (Dec 21, 2013 at 9:20)

Mostly state park land I'm guessing.

enorbz (Dec 21, 2013 at 10:23)

Cali doesnt have big mountain riding because of the liberals haha, yup ill get negative propped but you know its true

mrgonzo (Dec 21, 2013 at 12:26)

yeah it sucks when nosy liberals and sierra club pussies limit access but it's because Cali is a progressive, eco-friendly state that it isn't trashed more than it is. look at a clean, beautiful beach in san diego and then go twenty miles south and look at a beach in mexico and you will see the difference.

ctmtb98 (Dec 21, 2013 at 15:22)

I don't like it when people tell me animals should be treated above us and that we should be excluded from where they live. JMHO, we should have the access to enjoy the woods so long as we're not tearing down every tree. We should be able to build trails and have camp fires, but we should also respect that animals live there as well.

ScottRider21 (Dec 21, 2013 at 16:42)

Ya in bc we have all time trails, but it's the shore with all the crazy creative and fairly open recreational options, my trails that I ride in the Fraser valley are unfortunately illegal, because of the bylaws n what not. As well as trying not to get caught by the fvmba and having our trails closed of dismantled.

p-dub-4 (Dec 21, 2013 at 17:14)

What do you mean by "theres no reason Cali cant be a destination with the fame of BC, UT"?.... California IS a destination with the fame of BC and UT.... and then some. The riding here is diverse and world class, but Californians still enjoy leaving the state to ride, just like riders from BC enjoy coming down to California.

saxman2324 (Dec 21, 2013 at 18:15)

Cali is simply one of the of the best places to ride. Both northern and southern. But with anything, if you use it long enough, it begins to get boring (which I haven't experienced yet). Variety is the spice of life afterall.

taletotell (Dec 21, 2013 at 18:37)

The sierra club is the biggest enemy of healthy and sustainable use of nature. They get bikers kicked out, losing their allies for when the loggers come in.
How many places have you seen bikers kicked out of because their trails were bad for the environment, only to see the heavy machines come in to slash and burn a year later?
The motorcyclists and bikers see it here pretty often.

Ridgelineservice (Dec 21, 2013 at 19:46)

So-cal does have amazing riding and has as much potential as any other area. the things holding it back are horse riders and environmentalists saying mtb riders destroy the environment and trails and ironically they even work together sometimes which i find funy cuz horses do more damage than any other thing could possibly. I have tried to organize races here in socal but i always get shot down by horse riders usually cuz they have money and can persuade city counsel with it. there are many other reasons but those are the ones i have found.

airsoftesneeto (Dec 21, 2013 at 21:58)

@hunter100weiss you forgot the biggest mecca of it all, Santa Cruz!!! and yeah pretty much in cali if there is a good trail it is illegal.

goaliekat22 (Dec 22, 2013 at 11:13)

The problem is while 99% of people here are well intended, it takes that 1% that does things to make having that freedom difficult. Think of how many fires, including the rim and now big sur started by having an "honest campfire". I think the state needs to work with people on both national, state and regional land to make sustainable single track and make everyone happy. But doing so takes money we don't have but there is progress, even at the local level in the Bay Area. It's not just about not cutting down trees it's working with hillsides and mountains sides to create trails that work with water run off (if we ever get rain...) and last over time.

ctmtb98 (Dec 22, 2013 at 13:34)

yeah

corywilliam (Dec 24, 2013 at 13:58)

well in California there is no land to build on, trust me ive tried. all the hills you look up at, their all owned by someone and no one is willing to let some stupid kid build a trail on their land. the giant mountains are all national parks. and the land where you can build on, you have to have a really expensive permit and the land is at least 45 min from your location. so it kinda sucks in California. I miss the pacific north west

N3Rd5 (Dec 24, 2013 at 18:44)

Look at a "clean" beach in SD and then go to gulf of Mexico and tell me Cali is doing a good job keeping things clean. Its great compared to Mexico but they're so clogged with legislative BS they can't even accomplish tasks anymore. Cali is amazing but there's too many idiots here making things difficult.

goaliekat22 (Dec 27, 2013 at 23:40)

I think that you need to look around you. Within 15 min of my house there are four awesome places to ride, and one half an hour away. All created by a regional park system and often times people have the freedom to to build on hillsides and be creative, while also getting to ride single track. Even in the Santa Cruz mountains it never ceases to amaze me how many trails and spots are hidden in there if you look. You say that all the mountains are parks you can't ride, but what about parts of Tahoe, including a bike park, mammoth mountain, Pacifica, most state parks and places like downieville? I feel lucky to live here and be able to ride such diverse terrain one day to the next and I can mountain bike as well as snowboard in the same week!

any place is what you make it, and California is one of the most ecologically diverse places on the planet so go out and enjoy it!

Mutiny5050 (Dec 21, 2013 at 8:19)

Cali has some of the best downhill trails in the world, problem is they are all illegal and you have to know the builders to get access. All locals are spot nazis and for a good reason, they don't want there trails to get shut down. Most of the locals love to ride but hate to build which adds to the secret society of trail builders. It is so bad while driving home I noticed a group of riders building a trail down a canyon. I went up to ask to help and was told this is their trail and to stay off. So my friends and I built our own . Don't be fooled by Internet talk , Cali is the Mecca for downhill . You will just never ride it . Not until the trails are legal .

redbullrick (Dec 21, 2013 at 10:55)

Last year my local trail up the hill from me got raided by 50plus people (philipeno group) put the trail on blast and they had so many trucks at the bottom they started parking in the highway blocking the road its a 2 lane highway, then the clowns decide to have a cook out at the bottom of the hill and leaving all their trash for the rangers to see, long story short we the locals for 1. Trail got trashed from 50 riders doing multiple runs, i have pics of this group no joke, 2. Had to clean up all there f!ckn trash. Im sure some of them will read this comment and i hope they do,if your gona ride my shit take your trash atleast and dont come riding in a giant herd of chickens.

Mutiny5050 (Dec 21, 2013 at 11:45)

Do what we do. Make no ride arounds on the jumps and make it super aggressive

redbullrick (Dec 21, 2013 at 11:49)

Yea ive been working on a few new hits that i finished up before i had to go in for surgery again, 2 road gaps, one measuer out to 32ft, an now the new one 51ft.

Dillonrib (Dec 21, 2013 at 0:23)

Freeride will never be dead!

CaRaBeeN (Dec 21, 2013 at 2:45) (Below Threshold)

Who thinks opposite?

Theblackrider (Dec 21, 2013 at 3:21)

Since few years a lot of riders go in ski resort in summer for riding polished trail at high speed and take chair lift,an other part doing enduro/all mountain,nothing against the both but the true freerider who like sweat,blood,shape,technical trail,dust,big jump and big line become scarce...if you prefer freerider are at mtb as punk are at music: an endangered species who can't totally disappear!!!

nwatkins (Dec 22, 2013 at 21:54)

@Theblackrider I agree, that's a very good point

downhilla-trailbuilda13 (Dec 21, 2013 at 0:43)

some of the most rad guys around

Matt-W (Dec 21, 2013 at 8:56)

Are you serious Jeffrey?

I mean nobody would have guessed there would be somewhere to ride in a mountainous region larget than most european countries, right?

Especially one with good weather and snow on the mountains, right?

Yep definatley nowhere to ride there at all.

omidtehhun (Dec 23, 2013 at 4:09)

lol... i live in Santa Cruz and I understand it perfectly... most of California is desert and badlands. Also, the size of the state makes travel a bit of a pain.

SeanC1 (Dec 22, 2013 at 16:08)

"Cali has a government problem…"

interesting viewpoint. A lot of land in California is federally owned- US Forest Service and BLM land. So the same federal laws that apply to the rest of the country apply here.

A lot of this land is wilderness area or national park; again, subject to the same laws as the rest of the country.

State Park land is a different story, but there aren't any state parks in these big mountain areas.

Know your jurisdiction before you shout out this opinion.

RenoLaw (Dec 22, 2013 at 23:11)

There's alot of USFS and BLM land on the eastside. Once you're east of the crest it's normally fair game (parks and wildernesses generally end at the crest) as long as you're not building anything. Lots of great terrain and big decents with dg, scree or pumice from Tahoe south along the eastside and into Nevada if people look around!

rcdy FL (Dec 21, 2013 at 6:31)

didn't wade already do this back in 97?

zj609 (Dec 21, 2013 at 3:50)

To ride where no man has rode before. .

gnarrman FL (Dec 21, 2013 at 8:56)

Must feel so cool to be the one to make the first tire marks in fresh dirt.

pedalmetal (Dec 21, 2013 at 5:31)

Freedom, fun, adventure, it's all there. Laying down creative lines boys, Very sick!

rbarrows65 (Dec 21, 2013 at 9:02)

I'm originally born and raised in Cali,Hemet and SanJacinto area, and I know there's sooo many trails that run off of Mt.San Jacinto into the Indian Rez on the Hemet side!!

SeanC1 (Dec 22, 2013 at 19:57)

2:40-2:50 The type of trees, rocks, and the view of the eastern sierras narrow it down quite a bit.

sb1986 (Dec 21, 2013 at 7:20)

the entire eastern sierra is a pumice pit and there is no one out there that will see or care what you are doing

carrnage (Dec 21, 2013 at 8:50)

More like Southeastern Sierra

elanto (Dec 21, 2013 at 21:19)

'once you arrive at the bottom, your new brake pads and disc will be fully bedded in'

gr8tfyredup (Dec 22, 2013 at 21:57)

####QUIET!!!####there's no trails in Cali!!

trails801 (Dec 21, 2013 at 9:09)

That looks like a day of tough hiking! Great riding.

ctmtb98 (Dec 21, 2013 at 15:36)

suprised they didn't get arrested

JayTrautman (Dec 21, 2013 at 19:39)

SO SWEET! I would love to ride some of that stuff

rhinocerosDH (Dec 21, 2013 at 4:58)

awesome

Niedzwiedziek (Dec 21, 2013 at 9:26)

Awesome vid!

kavirengel (Dec 21, 2013 at 15:27)

Yeah Jeff way to brap it

NorcalSaffa (Dec 23, 2013 at 15:54)

RAD!!!!!!!!

FoxDaCosta (Dec 27, 2013 at 17:10)

Song please!

jetpilot (Dec 21, 2013 at 8:05)

Where is this zone??

matteosignorelli (Dec 21, 2013 at 16:56)

Nice try guys, but your not Aggy

adam-silver (Dec 21, 2013 at 11:23)

freeriding is utah and drops and such... this is just riding down a relatively bump free slope

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