Pro Men1. Marcelo GUTIERREZ VILLEGAS 2:50.92
2. Danny HART+ 0.71
3. Connor FEARON+ 1.05
4. Bernard KERR+ 2.55
5. Mark WALLACE+ 3.30
6. Mick HANNAH+ 3.80
7. Kyle SANGERS+ 4.09
8. Kirk MCDOWALL+ 5.23
9. Ruaridh CUNNINGHAM+ 5.52
10. Shawn NEER+ 5.69
11. Mitch ROPELATO+ 5.73
12. Nick BEER+ 5.99
13. Guillaume CAUVIN+ 6.35
14. Jack MOIR+ 6.51
15. Eliot JACKSON+ 6.53
16. Ziga PANDUR+ 7.00
17. Chris KOVARIK+ 7.02
18. Brendan FAIRCLOUGH+ 7.30
19. Bernardo Neves CRUZ+ 7.78
20. Matt BEER+ 9.16
Pro Women1. Tracey HANNAH 3:18.96
2. Casey BROWN+ 0.63
3. Claire BUCHAR+ 2.31
4. Vaea VERBEECK+ 6.36
5. Camila NOGUEIRA+18.22
6. Maria Luz DARQUIER+25.59
7. Veronique SANDLER+32.84
8. Alanna COLUMB+34.01
9. Kristen COURTNEY+41.32
10. Adrienne SCHNEIDER+ 1:00.87
Let's just forget about this mess and look forward to Méribel.
the problem is crankworx is a victim of its own success. when it first started as the whistler gravity festival you could pretty much walk the course unimpeded, hotels were easy and cheap, and the riders were everyday-joes who just shredded. as its grown more and more distance is given, its become harder and more expensive to get into as an athlete and as a viewer.
its still an event largely by riders, for riders. but sponsorship and money has changed how certain things are managed and run. just be happy the UCI doesn't have a say in things
Id do it for the pri ce of a plane ticket ;-) and the love of it.
www.pinkbike.com/video/375722
Should we give the same prize money to the toddlers class, because they also tried their hardest?
If we had more female heads of state there would a fewer wars and a lot less suffering in the world, that's for sure. That is because women are arguably a lot better than men at diplomacy. They are also pretty f*cking shit hot at having kids. I bet any woman could beat you hands down at that. Should we have a men's class to give us a chance at winning a birthing contest?
Women are world class at many things in their own right. They don't need a female category to be world class in a lot of areas. They can stand equal to men and beat them in many disciplines.
But DH mountain biking is not one of them. They are not as good as men. That's why they don't make as much.
The reason I don't care who won the girls' race, or the toddlers' race, or the hamsters' race, is because all of them would be behind pretty much the entire men's field. Not because they are girls, but because they aren't very good compared to the men.
I also never said they should be paid the same. Just that the disparity should be far less. Why that is absurd to you, is beyond me.
"But DH mountain biking is not one of them. They are not as good as men. That's why they don't make as much" This is also incorrect in that I have already given the factual possibility of why they get paid what they do. They do need separate categories in physical sports because they are not built the same as men. Fact. If you aren't interested in their results, that's fine. But that they should not be paid the same or closer to the same as men IN THE SAME CATEGORY is something I don't understand. I don't see how unrealistic it is to have Pro Men pay & Pro Women Pay be at least similar, along with Junior Men pay & Junior Women pay, and likewise with Amateur Men & Amateur Women pay/prize. No where did I say that Amateur Women or Junior or Men get the same pay.
Sometimes we make exceptions, as Finn competing with people older than him (the question should be is he then a Pro?) and with some females asking to compete in the men's like-category because they are constantly destroying their competition (like Lindsey Vonn in skiing or with some LPGA golfers). Sure there are exceptions, but they are exactly that exceptions because of their exceptional talent and abilities. If we were to combine all genders and ages into one category, it would be an utter disaster. And naturally, things would go back to being separated again.
Second guess: Same reason Obama administration pays woman less than men - sexism existing within those who say it shouldn't.
Where they are wrong (in my opinion) is that male consumers can also be influenced by female riders/racers. Same scenario happens in the ski industry.
That is the only fair way, correct?
I thought exactly the same thing. They shouldn't get paid anything. All they have to do is turn up.
Arguing that they should get the same as the men is disrespectful to men. Men and women are not the same so let's stop pretending they are hey. If you want a level playing field, the only way to do it is what @meathooker said. Combine the prizes and only have one class. The fact that there are two classes speaks volumes.
We have separate classes to allow the competition fair and balanced to create a level playing field. Juniors compete against juniors. Ages compete against ages. Pros compete against pros. Men compete against men. Women compete against women. If everything were mixed together you have exactly the opposite of a level playing field.
Should we give the same prize money to the toddlers class, because they also tried their hardest?
If we had more female heads of state there would a fewer wars and a lot less suffering in the world, that's for sure. That is because women are arguably a lot better than men at diplomacy. They are also pretty f*cking shit hot at having kids. I bet any woman could beat you hands down at that. Should we have a men's class to give us a chance at winning a birthing contest?
Women are world class at many things in their own right. They don't need a female category to be world class in a lot of areas. They can stand equal to men and beat them in many disciplines.
But DH mountain biking is not one of them. They are not as good as men. That's why they don't make as much.
The reason I don't care who won the girls' race, or the toddlers' race, or the hamsters' race, is because all of them would be behind pretty much the entire men's field. Not because they are girls, but because they aren't very good compared to the men.
Honestly, I think this has nothing to do with me/women skills, whos as good as who, rights, equality, fair share, any of that. It simply boils down to a numbers game, with the prize pool and level of sponsorship being proportional to the number of contestants and publicity gained.