lmfao yeah technology has really taken us out of 1966 lmfao!

 I highly doubt it is anywhere near 23 or even 25 for than matter, they are light bikes. but i doubt they are that light.

 if u have a cell phone il text u the picture of it on the scalelol

 its broken, send it too 7788787003 then i will believe you.

 lmfaoooooo well thank yah!

 no thanks, not looking to downgrade

 no thanks i dont downgrade

 675g for black sheep rims, 690g per microknobby tire, and the 4x only weighs 4 pounds if you happen to cut off the steerer and drain the fork oil.

 if any of you want to see it on the scale i have the picture on my phone and i'll text it to you just to prove u wrong

 why can't you post it up? in any case it's real easy to fake a scale shot, lol. case in point

also, the 4x is known to weigh 5.2, not 4, the 4 pound weight is without fork oil and steerer... i was about to buy one for the weight, but reneged because it weighed more than the fork it was supposed to replace.

just wondering how you can get such a ridiculosly heavy wheelset with... what hubs? to weigh just over 23 pounds.

could you list the full spec down to the spokes and hubs? that seatpost weighs over half a pound when it's uncut...

 i cant post it cause its on my phone u fuckin moron, are you stupid, its easy to see the scale says 23.25 lbs in the pic it isnt fake ur just retarded why are you going to such a far extent to try to prove me wrong when im going to show you this picture and ur gonna be fucking wrong, ur an idiot and its not worth ur time to try to prove me wrong, idf you reallly think its wrong give me ur fucking cell number and i can text you 2 pictures of it on the scale, its a 3 megapixel camera so it should be very easy to see unless ur a fucking hellen keller or something

 f*cking moron? hey, don't blame me you're too dumb to figure out a way to transfer crap off your phone, that you lost the data cable or can't use bluetooth. a 3 megapixel camera on a phone would no doubt have capabilities to get pictures onto a computer if... you weren't a "f*cking moron", or "retarded".


in case you haven't noticed i was not being hostile with you, i asked for a spec list and not the picture, because a nearly stock 4hun cannot reach that weight w/o some heavy modding, or by going brakeless/rigid. you are the "f*cking moron" for going all offensive in this situation, you can re-read all my comments and realize i was not being offensive or hostile to you.

again, it would be nice to see a FULL spec list including all mods i.e. cut seatpost, removed coil cartridge from the 4x to have it reach 4 pounds or whatever you did to achieve that weight, because almost all of the visible components ARE NOT THAT LIGHT.

 yeah you trying to question me on something that is stupid, first of all the phone was bought used, with no cable, im sorry i couldnt afford a brand new one, i havent checked into finding out how to put it on the computer and when you drop the crazy heavy stem, handlebars, front brake, shifting, chainguide, tubes. i think that would be easy to drop that weight

 and if u dont believe me you can ask the obvious witnesses of it being on the scale like harry (frolosophy) or troy (stkittsrider) and IF YOU HAVE A PHONE I CAN TEXT IT TO YOU not that hard to give me ur number

 and if you didnt see my 4x is an 09, the one you display is an 08, but if a differnce there, you might as well be comparing an 04 888 to an 09 888 and my steerer tube is half the length of that one

 wow these kids are queer i can definiately see this bike being 23 lbs .. they're just too retarded to realize it and they just want to bitch about it because this bike is better than any bike they will ever own

 hahahahahahahahaha

 medium

 4.5 lb frame 4 lb fork, thats a good start and there isnt much to this bike lol