ahh :-) that'l explain why you have 2 then :-)

 nothing else i've tried or had compares m8,my Scott Genius was just wrong,my Dale sucked,tried some cruz's and they were getting there,had a go on a couple of Intens's and they were ok and the list goes on m8,Trek,Marin blah blah blah :-) i like the fact that it doesn't matter what model or year Orange you have they all carry a "cool tag" :-)