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And Pauline is on the Pinnarello hardtail, not the FS

I will save my money, and also save my local trails by not riding on them when I would even need such pantalones

This is true, but also a lot of fast under'30's dump themselves in the Pro category for shits and giggles. Older group being faster overall is very common in XC racing....old man strength, more experience, and maybe more importantly.....at a point in their lives when family and jobs (perhaps) have settled down a little and they have more time to spend on what they love doing (just a theory I've heard multiple times over the years at many races when the 40+ Master crowd is faster than the age group just below them.

@TheR: Tough to put a price tag on the glory of winning one's local Wednesday Night Worlds mtb race series in Sport 40 - 42 Age group Clydesdale singlespeed class.

@DetroitCity: You make a lot of assumptions about me....but you are really clueless. And you are talking in caps now too, wow, that must mean you are very a knowledgeable subject matter expert here. It sounds like you don't know how to close the opening of a bottle and it leaked out on you, and you are blaming the mount versus your lack of knowledge of how to work a water bottle. lol. Maybe you should incorporate how to properly close a water bottle into your interval training.

@DetroitCity: Yes I know where the bottle mounts are, I read the article, but thank you for pointing out where they are for me again. Correct - I would not use one under the downtube, ever. I never said that I would use that one, so I won't be letting you know how that works in an XC race. But the horizontal one under the top tube? Sure, that would be fully usable....oh good forbid if a bottle drips a little. My sweat dripping all over my bikes is probably more toxic lol. It would be less of reach to grab one from there, then in a traditional spot where the shock is. You really think the mount under the top tube is "un-usable".? OK. Fully disagree there.

Read the article, and look close -- It CAN hold 2 water bottles in the front triangle (on medium to XL sizes)

The Mach 4 SL never had SuperBoost. It's always been a 148 rear end. Only the bigger travel bikes were ever SuperBoost.

@hughbm: The second bottle cage is in a non-traditional spot...it's underneath the top tube, near the seatstay junction.

You may have missed the parts where: 1) they dropped nearly a pound (.9) of weight (size depending), added some reach, now have a 66.7 HA with the 120mm fork options which is a lot different than your 2020. And also can carry 2 bottles in the front triangle which is also different than your 2020. How is that the "same bike you can buy now with a UDH?"