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Ten years ago they would have been 2.1"

The really intricate parts combine generative design with additive manufacturing. Considering these lowers are cast and mass produced, they can't get too crazy.

This is just a "first ride" review. I'm sure some concessions had to be made due to the circumstances of being a press camp, one ride, etc.

@Gregmurray50: you'd need two tall neatly stacked and identical stacks of cash to afford the fork and shock.

@RadBartTaylor: For mineral systems, water doesn't get in there, so it's a pointless hypothetical. Going down that road anyway, oil is hydrophobic. The oil would be repelling the water, and the nylon could passively absorb it. And while I stand behind whatever else I wrote last time (without scrolling up and checking what I wrote), I will say that this statement here is what I assume would happen based on indirect knowledge of what happens in other similar situations.

@RadBartTaylor: it's brake lines by major manufacturers that I'm aware of, for sure SRAM, Shimano, Magura. It doesn't matter if the nylon gets saturated, because the DOT fluid will continuously pull the moisture out of the nylon. The only thing I've seen slow this process down to basically a non issue is braided steel lines. Although the liner is still nylon, the steel greatly reduces exposure to the environment, and who knows what plastic is over the steel, it may make a difference. Anyone that's been working in bike shops has dealt with a rarely used bike with DOT brakes with pads that no longer retract. The system is suddenly over filled due to moisture absorption. Where do you think that water comes from? It used to happen all the time with Elixir brakes and their ridiculous reservoir system, but I've seen it with AXS road and Level and Guide, and Formulas (it's been a while) and old Hayes. When trying to even get the wheel to spin, I'd just crack open a bleed port. Without even pushing the pads back, the amount of fluid that squirts out is not insignificant.

@PhillipJ: you're regurgitating one of SRAM's old lies about mineral oil. In a mineral brake, moisture simply doesn't enter the system. Technically, if there were trace amounts of moisture for some reason, the nylon lining of all brake hoses would absorb it, removing it from the lines. It's the same pathway that contributes to moisture absorption in DOT systems. DOT not only mixes with water, it is attracted to water. Mineral oil won't mix with water and is repelled from water. Nylon will absorb over 1% of its mass in water.

@G-Sport: you can buy a DOT fluid moisture tester on Amazon for like $15. (I still prefer mineral oil though.)

@thenotoriousmic: Shimano mineral oil and the Maxima mineral oil both exceed DOT 5.1 dry boiling point. The real advantage is that mineral oil doesn't attract and absorb moisture from the environment straight through the hoses, increasing fluid volume and leading to internal corrosion. There's a reason why only brakes with DOT fluid require rebuilds with new seals.

What's the criteria when deciding whether or not to design the rim with an asymmetric shape? I would think that whichever way you weigh the pros and cons, it would be true across the line.