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davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 9:46
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@vinay: I agree with much of what you say, but believe that Covid needs too be tackled first, and then begin the slow process of changing peoples eating and exercise habits - that will take a generation at least. Covid has certainly shone a light on the underlying health issues here in the UK. For the first time that I remember in my 50 years, there have been infomercials on TV highlighting the need to change lifestyle - both to take the pressure off the NHS and to reduce the seriousness of Covid if caught. It will take time though.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 9:24
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@Boxmtb: But you can't avoid their subsequent interaction with parents (at greater risk) who then go on to mix with others. Unless you can 100% isolate them, then it doesn't work, and if you were to 100% isolate them, they'd be existing in an alternate lockdown.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 9:11
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@Boxmtb:And those under 20 with Covid are a great danger to their older friends, relatives, and other people they interact with.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 9:09
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@Boxmtb: And I responded to that above - it's flawed.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 9:08
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@vinay: Yes and fully agree that there are broader health issues - particularly in the US and UK re obesity and inactivity that need tackled head on rather than ignored, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be tackling Covid itself. Sadly the idea of a coherent approach by either of those countries' respective governments re general health is optimistic at best - look at the fat f*cks "in charge" of both... Trump believes exercise to be bad for you for Christ's sake.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 8:36
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@Rageingdh: Funnily enough I see it the other way round.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 8:20
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@vinay: When we have no other options (where we are right now) a last resort and a necessity are not mutually exclusive. Cases spoke when people mix, and slow under lockdown where the lockdown is adhered to. Problem is that often they are not - we've seen massively divergent trends in spread of cases in the UK due to differing adherence to lockdowns.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 8:12
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@Rageingdh: Science is theory based until fact can be established. There can therefor be a range of differing theories until fact is established. Overwhelming majorities are relevant in this context, and are not buzzwords, but simply words.
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 8:07
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@Boxmtb: That approach would only work if those who are less at risk (but not free from risk - no-one is) were able to go through life completely removed from others at greater risk. That's not possible/practical and is exactly the reason that Schools in the UK are closing again due to a spread of infections from school to homes which then spreads further. The herd immunity theory has badly backfired in Sweden https://partner.sciencenorway.no/epidemic-health-healthcare/comparing-norway-and-sweden-norwegian-coronavirus-measures-reduced-hospitalizations-drastically/1701510 Re the Great Barrington Declaration - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30555-5/fulltext
davechopoptions alicialeggett's article
Jan 5, 2021 at 8:00
Jan 5, 2021
London Bike Show Is Another COVID-19 Casualty After Owner Closes Shop
@Boxmtb: Saving lives shouldn't be seen differently due to different political stances. The fact that all governments from all political persuasions are implementing lockdowns out of necessity - not desire speaks volumes but some choose not to listen. No-one wants them or enjoys them, and they damage each respective country's economy almost beyond comprehension, and yet they all see it as a necessary precaution to reduce needless loss of life. Any time precautions have been relaxed (Thanksgiving, Xmas, schools re-opening, the UK government's unfortunately named "Eat Out to Help Out" campaign, gatherings of any sort) cases have spiked. In the UK, all countries have just gone to the most severe lockdown experienced so far as a result of increased cases due previously relaxed conditions.
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