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Daaamn, good to see / read you!! If I knew it was broken, I wouldn't have given you my brace haha

Riders like Joshi easily reach around 70 ° celsius.

@Waldon83: only if you ride it as a 29er ;-) It does not touch... the frame is on the market since 2014, one of the several hundret customers would have complained. I designed it by the way, as the suspension compresses, the shock rotates forward providing space for the rear wheel.

@Blablablup123: I have been riding BOS-suspension since 2009, and I really have to say that the customer service has improved really a lot during the last year! In Germany for example, Flatout suspension can do service on BOS, and this usually takes around one week. Even if you get it serviced in Toulouse, it will be done within an acceptable period meanwhile. I am not kidding, and I honestly have to say that it is the best suspension I ever rode. For testing purposes, I have been riding most of the other big brands forks and shocks extensively as well, so I have a clear comparison.

Thanks for the analysis, you are pretty spot-on!! :-) The kinematics you have been analyzing is the standard-link, this one is designed for coil-shocks. The one for airshocks looks different. X-rider brings it to the point. By the way, I am the Solid engineer who is responsible for the kinematics. Part of the testing session in Sanremo has been to evaluate the new ratio curve in combination with the BOS VOID shock. The only thing that is changed is the lower link plus we've been adding a small mechanism to this (which I am not yet allowed to describe in detail), but it is compatible to all Strike frames. One interesting point is the impact of the ratio curve to the rebound speed at your wheel... you can set-up the shock completely different from what you would do at the standard-link with the super-progressive ending. And for us, this is a huge progress in our learning curve.

https://www.google.de/patents/US20010024024?dq=James+B.+Klassen&cl=en Just to show.... the whole situation is more difficult than just 2 rotating links.

I think the VPP-patent dates back to a patent by James B. Klassen, founder of Outland cycles. Here's a quote: "Claims(14) A bicycle comprising: a chain drive, in which the distance from the axis of a drive sprocket to the axis of a rear wheel hub is represented by a variable value CSL; and a compressible rear suspension having a linkage for moving said hub along a controlled wheel travel path as said suspension is compressed, said controlled wheel travel path having an arc radius which is greater towards a lower end of said path and smaller towards an upper end of said path." The condition at the Solids are different. Solid's rear axle path's arc radius even changes its direction... to keep it simple.

They look similar, this is true, and yes, one of the claims SC have on their VPP patent is the counter rotating links, but there are others before this claim that are solved differently - those refer to the wheel axle path, and the Solid has a unique feature, thus is different.

I would like to get some light into the darkness. Polygon uses some standard-molds for tubings, just like Solid does, and many other comanies do. This is why tubes often look similar. Solid is NOT manufacturing at Polygon. The functionality of the new Prototype-Solid suspension system is a CFS, it is basically a scaled Solid-Strike-Suspension, yet the wheel axle path has been fitted to slightly different demands on an enduro (e.g. you run it with smaller chainrings, so you need less chainstay elingation to keep it stable). The upper link on the Polygon acts as an active link, meaning it has a floating shock. At the Solid, it is supported concentrically in order to compensate parts of the loads. Like at the Solid Strike, unlike Polygon. The new Solid prototype contains some standard-tubes, and it currently is outfitted with an X12-axle and hanger, all other design solutions however are unique and 100% selfmade by the guy who designs the Solid Bikes. Loki87, you know him pretty well personally ;-) The geometry by the way is pretty perfect. Rides like a downhillbike, similar to the Strike. No major changes to be expected.