negative-approach

This sums it up perfectly: "Business is business. Me saving a couple hundred comes before the LBS's well being."

I think you missed the point with the car example. I was referring to supporting your local economy. By supporting the people making the parts and the cars they have money to spend at your shop.it's a cycle. Though maybe you don't have that type of manufacturing locally, so don't see it as relevant. Also...I pay retail and wouldn't ask for a deal; if it's too much I will buy online.

Ever make assumptions about people and resort to name calling? Funny thing is I do support my LBS and buy online, it depends on the situation. I also try to buy Canadian if possible when buying online. I understand what you are saying, I'm just saying that's not how it's going to play out. Also, how many of the people on here complaining about this drive a foreign-made (ie not Canadian/American made) vehicle? Where do you draw the line with buying local?

"Ask General Motors about it." Yeah, I was being sarcastic. GM clearly didn't listen. "I hope you go on a bike trip to the interior of BC..." Sort of a ridiculously extreme example. I'd likely just overnight Fedex a fork from Jensonusa (sarcasm) "you talk about adaptation can every bike shop have a web presence on the scale of these guys? can the market support every shop being an OBS and a LBS just to survive?" Nope. Some will fail. It's one of the risks of being a small business owner.

"have fun with that theory" No, really, that’s how capitalism works… "when you can't fine someone to fix your bike since you put your LBS under, oh and next time you have a local comp don't expect that online bike shop to help sponsor it, i also would bet that 'OBS' won't sponsor that trail day at your local spot. economies of scales is the problem with online sales and LBS can't compete if a online dealer dumps products below mom and pop dealer cost." Please note all but one of the online retailers listed are LBS in addition to being online retailers and I’m sure sponsor local events and will fix your bike. The difference being they didn’t complain, they adapted to a changing market. "i know burton is scaling back production for next season to try and more closely match how many product they sold before they had dump the product on the market." I call bullsh!t on this. If Burton really wants to sell less and are curbing their production to match pre-internet sales, then more power to them. I’m sure another company won’t mind picking up the extra sales. Bottom line: As a business you don’t tell the market what they want and how to go about getting it; you get told what to sell and how to sell it. Ask General Motors about it.

LBS are businesses, not charities. If your business model stops working, then you either change or you die... that’s the free market. Please stop crying about it though.

Not sure why they bothered to give the cost of the Faction frame in USD since they can't ship it outside the EU. Likely would have been better to go with a frame they could ship to North America like the Chromag Monk.

You seriously believe that?! wow.