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@fartymarty: Isn't using wheelbase as a criteria for choosing bike size almost like using weight as a criteria to chose pant size? Does not say that much about the actual size.

@fartymarty: Yes, I know. That is why it is such a poor way of comparing frame sizes, especially when the frames are equipped with a set-back seatpost. If we review the case of the 17 Enduro size Large 650B, it has a stack height of 604mm, ETT of 604mm and a STA of 76. A 10mm set-back seatpost will slacken the effective STA by almost one degree(0.89). Leaving it with an (effective) ETT of 614 and a STA of 75.11.

@fartymarty: Yes, changing seatposts is no problem, that was not my point at all. You were comparing ETT and stating that the cockpit was short. When in reality the difference in reach was only 10mm. The ETT figures when considering the setback dropper would only be about 10mm apart as well.

@fartymarty: When comparing ETT you should consider that the Enduro uses a setback dropper post(I think the IRcc is 10mm) and has a steeper STA. The mega has 10mm more reach in L/XL.

@mehukatti: I disagree, although I like the concept of longish reach numbers, its not a competition on who can make the longest reach for a certain size. Both Santa Cruz and Trek have recent or new bikes with similar reach figures as the new Enduro, its hardly outdated, more a personal preference. For example, Josh Bryceland(188cm) rides a Large Santa Cruz V10(reach 420), Richie Rude(180cm) rides a Medium SB6c(reach 426), Robin Wallner(179cm) rides a XL Mojo HD3(reach 446).

On second thought, the STA of 76 may work out quite well with the Command post though, as it has a bit of setback.

The reach is actually not that bad. 450mm for a Large, which is more than a SB6c (447). Seat tube angle of 76 though, wonder how that will work out. Check out mtbr.com for complete geometry numbers.

@shaun7005: My mistake, I just assumed he ran 9000 levers to eliminate SW. So he runs 9020 mainly for weight savings then? Great that you follow up on our curiosities :)

The lever in the picture look like a M9020(Trail) lever, but that does not really make sense, as the XTR-trail levers and Saint levers are more or less the same, at least for M988 and M820. I am guessing those levers are M9000 with M9020 lever blades, for easier reach adjust. The whole point of running XTR levers with Saint calipers is to eliminate the Servo Wave, for a more consistant and direct brake action/feel. Only the XTR race levers can help you do this. I am running XTR Race(M985) levers with Saint M820 calipers, it works great, a lot of power, great lever feel. It is a bit more fiddly, as the reservoir is a bit smaller, you have to bleed it/refill mineral oil as the brake pads get worn. I don't consider this a problem, as I normally have to bleed my brakes more often than I change pads.