Video: The 36 Returns by EyesdownFilms

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foespower (Jun 18, 2014 at 11:36)

£400 more than a pike, no ta

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shakeyakey (Jun 18, 2014 at 13:54)

You forgot to mention £400 more and FUNKIN pinch bolts!!

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mtb-wales (Jun 19, 2014 at 5:56)

I remember struggling to get pinch bolts off before getting my old 36's into and out the van it is a PITA, also got caught out once or twice with punctures and no 3mm allen key or whatever it was. I thought we had moved on from this surely the weight difference is not enough to warrant it.

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antlees (Jun 18, 2014 at 23:37)

Fox fork prices are just a piss take now!

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kovaldesign (Jun 18, 2014 at 14:21)

36 returns? I thought it was around for about 10years or so... aaah yes, got ya! they mean the PITA bolts returns

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veero (Jun 19, 2014 at 0:24)

Yeah I don't remember it ever 'going' to need a 'return'... Pikes disappeared for a while and definitely made a return. Still I guess they've got catching up to do with RS. It definitely sounds encouraging though, lighter and stiffer than a 34. I do miss my 2011 36 Vans, they were amazing forks and absolutely buttery smooth. I definitely do not miss my 2013 34 CTDs, and yeah seconded about the pinch bolts, join the 21st century Fox... Good marketing vid though. Still it's gonna take some time and lots of cracking reviews to regain some of that faith in Fox. My Pikes in the meantime are awesome, I'm not looking back.

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guna07 (Jun 19, 2014 at 10:26)

I wasnt slagging them i have fortys and 36 on other bikes but i also have pikes and they dont need half as much looking after service wise as the marzzochis and the rock shocks and are cheaper, unless u rate ur skills high on a mtb the chances of u feeling and seeing a difference in these forks are minimal its all down to looks and what u as a rider prefer there a nice fork but not a nice price for the after care they will need is what i was pointing out!

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robdbank (Jun 18, 2014 at 14:04)

Opinions are based on experience. How many people throw around opinions about parts with having never touched them.

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Warren569 (Jun 18, 2014 at 22:40)

If you want a review look here www.pinkbike.com/news/fox-36-float-rc2-talas-first-ride.html "the Fox equals the Pike on all counts" but for £400 more (UK) and without proven reliabilty, sale reductions and SRAM service levels.........great to see them up their game but you really have to like Fox over RS

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sq225917 (Jun 18, 2014 at 15:36)

Fox lost their way with the CTD stuff, the older Fit 2 36 has always ben better than the Pike though.

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Sundance (Jun 20, 2014 at 7:00)

Never seen Bike Park Wales that dry before!

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minty1 (Jun 18, 2014 at 13:10)

nice to see the pike getting some competition,who knows it may prove to be a better fork,personally I'm bored seeing the pike on every bike out.

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zenis (Jun 20, 2014 at 2:22)

I agree with you That's why I ride Marzocchi and I must say that they are pretty amazing stuff. So far, so good.

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sewer-rat FL (Jun 18, 2014 at 14:11)

Like me and mrs rat, over far to quick

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fell321 (Jun 18, 2014 at 15:02)

This is basically Fox saying, 'Don't forget about us guys!'

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miketizzle (Jun 19, 2014 at 11:40)

Need to get over to BPW soon!!!

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benpinnick (Jun 19, 2014 at 15:05)

"The 36 Returns"... Where did it go?

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Mcfc1987 (Jun 18, 2014 at 11:42)

The pike really isn't that great, go try a BOS and I bet this 36 performs sooooo much better

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Mcfc1987 (Jun 18, 2014 at 11:43)

Don't get me wrong it's a good fork but only seems so good because Fox have put out shit for a few years

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shakeyakey (Jun 18, 2014 at 14:00)

I've had both pike and deville and although the BOS is better at speed the after sales service from them is nonexistent!
I know jungle have taken over import duties so we'll have to see how they get on dealing with BOS.
As for fox it would have to be feckin AMAZING to warrent an extra £400 and god damn pinch bolts!

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RyanWensley (Jun 18, 2014 at 15:04)

You know pinch bolts really don't take that much longer than the Maxle... Also mo' stiffness. And it has been said that the 36 feels better than the Pike in many aspects. No actual reviews of it as yet but that's what is getting around from people who have tried it out.

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spudlord (Jun 20, 2014 at 12:52)

From having a DJ bike with pinch bolts and an all mountain bike with a maxle I can happily say pinch bolts take a lot longer especially when someone has to ask everyone "do you have a multi-tool?” that adds a good minute or so compared to the 5 second maxle or old 36 clamps.

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kirellis (Jun 18, 2014 at 11:24)

Still won't be as good as a pike

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guna07 (Jun 18, 2014 at 11:28)

And i would say its going to need more tlc than the pike too, great fork tho shame its not as bomb proof as the marzocchis!

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minty1 (Jun 18, 2014 at 13:07)

Sweeping statements with zero foundations.

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RyanWensley (Jun 18, 2014 at 15:05)

+1 to that minty.

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RaleighVoid (Jun 18, 2014 at 23:29)

Its pinkbike though minty haha

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minty1 (Jun 19, 2014 at 0:09)

This is oh so true,everyone' knows everything about everything but no one has had any time on anything they know everything about.

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cridavies (Jun 19, 2014 at 2:04)

I don't know anything about anything but I do know that most people who talk the talk about forks still haven't realised that the blinged up Pikes and 36's probably overkill for anything they ride in the UK.

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duir (Jun 19, 2014 at 9:20)

Would have to massively disagree with that statement. You need to go ride some of the insane stuff in the mountains of the Lakes or Scotland at full speed to appreciate why 160mm forks are not overkill on modern trail bikes. Take the Nicolai the guy is riding in the film, 160mm of hand made custom geometry German engineering with a 63 degree head angle. It's a downhill bike that goes up too. Most modern bikes are light and slack and designed to be hammered. Putting a 140 or 150mm flexi fork on the front would make no sense at all.

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minty1 (Jun 19, 2014 at 10:02)

My previous 36 was used for 40k epic xc rides,full on dh uplift days and everything in between,the new one I'm waiting on will be doing the same. I like to be able to go for a ride and know that if I decide I want to go big I can without a worry,often a ride will start off xc and end with a session on local dh trails,the 36 copes with everything well.

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cridavies (Jun 25, 2014 at 1:27)

Hi duir. I see what you're saying but my point is that you're in a very small minority. I'm talking about trail centre warriors who hold you up on the trail, and push their 6K carbon rigs up the hills because they're too unfit to climb but then spend hours in the car park pontificating on how smooth and plush blah blah that their 160mm fork is. I've ridden every single kind of "insane" terrain the UK has to offer on a rockshox revelation with 150mm travel, from ridiculously rocky natural lines to incredibly steep DH tracks at full speed so yeah I do think for those guys I'm talking about, a big fat 36 is overkill for the speeds they ride.