How to lower a pike 454 Video

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peterJjohnston (Mar 30, 2010 at 6:02)

just lowered my pikes 454 dual airs using this vid. Got my spacers from here;

All-Travel Spacer Kit (All 2010 forks)

www.tftunedshox.com/Catalogue/Shop-RockShox/RockShox/RockShox-Fork-Spare-Parts

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Boyk1182 (Aug 15, 2011 at 6:59)

Quick question.. in the beginning when you unscrew the bolt on top (where the u-turn knob is), what are you unscrewing? Do you have to remove the u-turn knob in order to get to this bolt? All I see on top of mine is the u-turn knob, which is round so it can't be unscrewed with a wrench.. Hope that made sense, thanks!

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Boyk1182 (Aug 15, 2011 at 9:12)

OK that was a dumb question, I see the C clamp now to get the u-turn knob off and the bolt underneath. And thanks for the video, much easier to understand than the Rock Shox manual..

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dibbott (Apr 18, 2009 at 1:42)

haha the shadow when your pumping at 330.0

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nouser (Apr 18, 2009 at 17:34)

ahahahahahahahahaha

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veisix (Feb 25, 2011 at 2:05)

if pike 454 is lowered to 80mm, the "air spring guild" table is the same like when pike was 140mm? or I need to pump more than 150psi??

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nouser (Feb 26, 2011 at 7:43)

its the exact same because its not a spring fork, you do not compress anything while dropping it, in fact, you can get as low as you want thus as smooth

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NWD10JOFFIE (Oct 4, 2010 at 8:59)

did u lower them 2 80's? cause im thinking about buying some for my dmr 898 and was wondering if if was gonna be hard to lower them. thanks

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nouser (Oct 4, 2010 at 18:47)

i did, but you can actually lower it to the lenght you want...

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suicidedownhiller (Jul 3, 2009 at 13:19)

Fread, if I take my pike u-turn model, with 140-95 mm travel u-turn and lower them to...let's say 80 mm, will it now be 80mm to 125 travel adjust?

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nouser (Jul 3, 2009 at 15:00)

i don't know for the coil but for the air, yes...

my friend has a pike team ( a very old pike ) and to drop its pike we only had to screw a bolt, wich was the uturn... because he couldn't reach less than 95mm because the spring of the fork was tight at this place (farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2902236303_fc71393fdd.jpg) so after lowering his fork, he could lower his fork to infinite, but max is 95mm

hope it help'd you!

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suicidedownhiller (Jul 3, 2009 at 15:50)

ok, Thank you very much!

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wipeass-jack (Nov 6, 2010 at 0:15)

oh true! haha, i figured the new travel adjuster kit should work. have you heard about them?

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nouser (Nov 6, 2010 at 14:52)

nop i havent, do you have any info on it ?

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bigbrown (May 26, 2009 at 6:45)

what kind of spacer you need??

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nouser (May 26, 2009 at 12:27)

i dont know if you can use like a piece of a old handle bar, i didnt tried because i was afraid of using the internal si i used some hose seal like theses

the principle is to get the piston further from the end of the cylinder ( nearer from the top of the fork if you prefer)

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wipeass-jack (Nov 5, 2010 at 18:17)

were can i get a couple of these spacers from? and at the end of the video you didnt pump up the bottom chamber? how come?

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nouser (Nov 5, 2010 at 19:00)

they actually are water hoses's seal, i dont know what kind of hardware shop youve got in australia, but it would be where there's garden tools for sale...

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mikeiliketobike (Jul 2, 2010 at 22:02)

does anyone no how to lower a pike 409 the one with u turn and motion control?

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nouser (Jul 3, 2010 at 7:35)

its the exact same

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Macks (Jan 21, 2010 at 10:54)

Wait, is there no oil in the u-turn leg? Also, do you think it would be the same process for the Argyle 409?

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nouser (Jan 21, 2010 at 12:15)

no there's no oil in mine... i lowered my friend's 409 and there is some, and yes its about the same process

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Macks (Jan 21, 2010 at 12:45)

Thanks for the reply, but I just finished it lol! There was only a small amount of oil in mine also, I was expecting it to flood out like in Marzocchi's but I guess there's enough oil for the suspension process in the Rockshox.

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nouser (Jan 21, 2010 at 13:34)

you maybe should do a how to, lot of people are asking for theses...

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Macks (Jan 22, 2010 at 8:03)

Oh, there's really no point! It's really simple in the Argyle, just have to pull the internals apart seeing as there's no cir clips... Let's just hope people see these comments to save you the hassle of being asked countless questions!

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zaberwocky (Jan 22, 2010 at 23:15)

yeah man there should not be a lot of oil in the spring leg - it's just for lubrication. all the oil (different weight tho) is in the dampener (RS top right leg). so it you take the lowers off there's only lube oil in RS. with Marz it's different because most older ones use open bath dampener, which means that your springs actually sit in your dampener and the same oil is used for dampening and lube. that's why there's a tonn of oil when you take the lowers off.

yeah the search button is awesome )) i might get my friend's old Pike dual air for my DJ bike so i was looking for the info!

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furrytoes (Nov 8, 2011 at 19:43)

you can unlower after right?

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nouser (Nov 9, 2011 at 1:25)

yes, that is right

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forevertwosix (Mar 28, 2010 at 14:09)

is it the same concept with a pike 409???any differences???

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nouser (Mar 30, 2010 at 3:51)

i dont know, is it air ? if so ; yes it is

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bluezac17 (Dec 10, 2010 at 22:33)

yea they make the 454 in more then just the air model

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bluezac17 (Dec 9, 2010 at 20:52)

or next time you could just buy the u-turn model...

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nouser (Dec 10, 2010 at 15:20)

nice try, its actually a 454 air u-turn... the lowest on these is 110mm, i dont like riding a chopper, i've lowered it to 80mm ...

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DavidDee (Aug 25, 2010 at 15:16)

Is it the same for the coil and the dual air versions?

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nouser (Aug 25, 2010 at 15:39)

nahh, the coil verson is really simpler, get me a picture of the internal ( everything, from the bottom bolt to the top bolt ) and send me a PM, ill explain you

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dirtrider-50 (Nov 23, 2009 at 6:17)

Is it possible to lower a pike 409 coil uturn??

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nouser (Nov 23, 2009 at 16:09)

je n'ai jamais essayé, mais il y a des grosses chances que non. il faudrait ouvrir la fourche et comprendre le méchanisme pour la dropper

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nouser (Dec 10, 2010 at 15:22)

Je sais pas si tu cherche encore à descendre ta 409 coil mais j'ai fait celle à mon ami et c'est assez simple !

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finleym (Jun 25, 2009 at 10:32)

will the u turn still work fine??

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nouser (Jun 25, 2009 at 10:35)

yes it will

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finleym (Jun 26, 2009 at 14:09)

oh ill get mine lowered to 70 then thanks

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sebastianj (May 26, 2009 at 21:09)

can you do this to a marzocchi 55r ¿¿¿¿???????

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nouser (May 26, 2009 at 21:28)

i've never tried, i can't tell, and i dont own any marzo.... but i guess its the same for almost all marzo fork

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NaturalBIKER (May 20, 2009 at 2:09)

so mabe a weird question but can you also raise a fork??

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nouser (May 20, 2009 at 3:54)

yeah, but the max will still be 140mm

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NaturalBIKER (May 21, 2009 at 3:36)

ok thx.

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Michielo (Feb 28, 2009 at 5:58)

Do you know how I lower my pike 454 coil? thnx

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aron-24seven (Dec 31, 2008 at 8:54)

ahh a get ya. a thought they were 90 mm to 140 u turn and if u wanted less thn 90 u need to lower them. i get ya now

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k2dan (Dec 30, 2008 at 17:12)

rockshox are the best to repair and disassembly did mi lyrik and its as essez as they come good to see the how too thx

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zaberwocky (Jan 22, 2010 at 23:16)

merci beaucoup man! ;-)

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caravanking (Sep 28, 2009 at 15:25)

so do you only do that in one side and leave the u-turn side as it is ???

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nouser (Sep 28, 2009 at 15:44)

the compression side *

yes you do...
i did step one to final step in that video

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caravanking (Sep 29, 2009 at 13:19)

so you dont have to touch the uturn side at all....

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nouser (Sep 29, 2009 at 14:36)

theCOMPRESSION SIDE you have to do all that into the uturn side...

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caravanking (Sep 29, 2009 at 14:43)

so you only do that to one side yes or no ??? i have dj1 07 and had to do both sides but with dj1 08 only one side is done

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nouser (Sep 29, 2009 at 14:54)

you do it only on the U-turn side...

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caravanking (Sep 30, 2009 at 13:24)

ah righty cheers

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zaberwocky (Jan 22, 2010 at 23:09)

most RS have a dampener in the right leg and a spring/air in the left.
as far as i know some Zocchis (JR Ts, Super Ts and DJs) they have springs in two legs (sometimes with air preload) and open bath dampener in both legs. but i think post 08 Marz had some changes...
but to lower a fork with one side spring you only need to mess with the spring or air side!

cheers!!

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bigbrown (May 26, 2009 at 15:24)

thanks:P

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aron-24seven (Dec 30, 2008 at 6:28)

if its a u turn forks cnt u just u tht to make thm smaller?? or is it smaller thn 90mm??

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nouser (Dec 30, 2008 at 9:57)

what ?.....

i'll answer the question i understood; the pike 454 air is 110mm, so you can't get lower than that if you dont drop your travel

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dobermann-rocks (Mar 11, 2010 at 20:08)

u can lower pike 454 airs by pumping lots of air into the bottum valve then a bit into the top and it lowers rhem

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nouser (Mar 12, 2010 at 4:00)

i know, but when you pull the handle bar while you have your feet on the wheel, you can make it stock again, that's what i dont want to...

so i can lower a pike 454 air by addings spacers

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kinkos9090 (Dec 29, 2008 at 1:59)

nice job could i do that with rock shox toras

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nouser (Dec 29, 2008 at 8:34)

i dunno, maybe if its the same internal

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thebfgjsy (Dec 22, 2008 at 9:39)

can u do bomers as well

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nouser (Dec 22, 2008 at 14:59)

no, sorry, never tried with them

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momojellydonut (Aug 13, 2009 at 22:35)

why the hell are you useing a mexican wrence, get a real one

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johndavis94 (Feb 24, 2011 at 14:51)

adjustable spanners are very useful......

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