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29" Hardcore Hardtail- 140/150mm travel
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flag rynee
Posted: Apr 7, 2021 at 13:36 Quote
big-pete23 wrote:
Heya Guys,

I want to get back into riding- and I want to do it gently and easily- hence the 29" option for easy rollover etc.

But I dont want a XC/Gravel bike- Id like something with some travel and with more of a Trail/enduro geo.

id also love a solid rear axle- 12mm/etc as I love a stiff back end.

Any help appreciated.

Regards

Hi Pete
assuming you'd like to stay local, the already mentioned Cotic would be an obvious suggestion. The BFeMax is their aggressive 29er hardtail, and they offer numerous build options, which can be further amended in the fineprint:
https://www.cotic.co.uk/product/BFeMAX
The SolarisMax is a bit less aggressive and slightly more pricey:
https://www.cotic.co.uk/product/solarisMAX

Stanton have also been mentioned, they are a bit more expensive than Cotics, and you have the option to select either Taiwan-made 4130 steel, or UK made 631 Reynolds steel. They offer a large array of color options as well...example: https://www.stantonbikes.com/product/switch9er/

Finally the Pipedream Moxie full build is currently on sale: https://www.pipedreamcycles.com/shop/moxie-builder/

On top of those, it might be worth taking a look at PlanetX: https://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes

Cheers
flag y9pema
Posted: May 6, 2021 at 11:34 Quote
honso esd is amazing bike!
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flag Tim-N
Posted: May 11, 2021 at 11:09 Quote
Silver fork suits him well.
Love the red
flag gbcarmona
Posted: Jun 11, 2021 at 14:16 Quote
big-pete23 wrote:
Cheers lads.

Andy- Bike and spanner looks amazing! CRC could learn a thing or two!

Some frames I like the look of-
Nordest Bardino 2
Kingdom Vendetta X2
Dartmoor Bikes Primal PRO
Stanton Switchback


Like I said before- I want to build something easy to ride to get back into the sport and lose some corona weight! is there anything else I should be looking out for?

Go for a Kingdom Vendetta X3 29er…you won’t regret it…the bike is awesome to ride…I’ve built mine with 150 fork and it’s very good. Had a X2 before which was also amazing but the X3/bigger wheels make it even better.
flag Tjomball
FL
Posted: Jun 16, 2021 at 2:52 Quote
Have a look at Orbea Laufey.
flag leythervegas
Posted: Jun 19, 2021 at 13:02 Quote
I have a Moxie after previously having a Solarismax, Bfe and Soul. Can honestly say its the best hardtail i have ever ridden. And the best thing is they are in stock which is rare!

https://www.pipedreamcycles.com/shop/moxie/

Here's mine...

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flag Danhikeski
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Posted: Dec 3, 2021 at 18:38 Quote
I really enjoyed my specialized Fuse. The base has 130mm front travel. I think the higher model has 140, but I might be wrong on longer travel.
flag csvetich
Posted: Dec 3, 2021 at 21:22 Quote
chromag rootdown

i ride the stylus its a great rowdy bike, but i bet the 29er rootdown is sweeet! or get one of the Canadian made ones.

honzo st super awesome bike, wants to jump off everything and it's 29er rolls over everything; i love mine. the esd is slacker and yes more capable down, a little more shopping cart like, but going down it is way more stable at speed then the st.

but if I was in the UK stanton switch9er uk made if is accessible, haven't rode one, dont care, i would just pull the trigger.

you could probably ride that sherpa for miles and hard, but it's more XC downcountry asking for fox 34SC, but you probably want more fork than that, been thinking of replacing my 2010 sir9 with one.
flag JoeBristol
Posted: Mar 7, 2022 at 2:21 Quote
No budget mentioned but let’s assume mid range at least.

I’d probably go for a Bird Forge or Pipedream Moxie (in pink). The Bird has the better tubeset but the Moxie edges it for me on colour.

I’ve got a Marino steel frame I designed for 140 Pike Ultimates - using Reynolds 725. Fully internal routing and a few options I picked made it quite a heavy frame. The bike comes in almost bang on 30lbs with decent kit on it (light hubs and rims / carbon bars / carbon cranks / GX Eagle / exo casing tyres).

It’s very different to ride than my Sentinel - but that was the intention. The hardtail has a shorter back end / slightly steeper HA (66.5 vs 63.6) / slightly slacker seat tube (better seated position for long rides) etc. Much more playful but still capable.
flag y9pema
Posted: Apr 19, 2022 at 11:58 Quote
My honzo ESD clone.

Marino bikes
flag wheeldrop
Posted: Nov 5, 2023 at 19:50 Quote
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzJjvCPR7kC/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
flag wheeldrop
Posted: Nov 5, 2023 at 19:50 Quote
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzJjvCPR7kC/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== that transition trans am just hit the market for limited time.e only
flag Gravelben
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Posted: Nov 5, 2023 at 20:42 Quote
I'm not convinced by these super steep seat tube angles and looong reaches we're seeing on hardtails lately, it seems like lazy designers are just copying fashionable full-sus geo numbers without considering the opposite sag effect on a hardtail.

Unlike full sus, hardtails get longer and steeper as they sag, significantly so with a 140-150mm fork.

Taking that new Transition TransAm for an example (but not singling it out as its far from the only example) and running its geo numbers through a sag calculator here: https://madscientistmtb.com/sagged-hardtail-geometry-calculator/

In size M it has a nominal 460mm reach and 76.5° seat tube.

At 20% sag that becomes 474mm reach and 77.8° STA.
At 25% sag that becomes 478mm reach and 78.1° STA

Those numbers are getting a bit ridiculous to me, especially that reach for a size M. The super steep STA might be good for really steep hills but I don't think it would be a nice pedalling position on flatter trails.


For comparison my 140mm hardtail ('21 Merida Big Trail) is 455mm reach (size L) with a 75.5° STA, no doubt fashion-conscious reviewers will say that's not very progressive. Running its numbers through the sag calculator:

At 20% sag that becomes 469mm reach and 76.7° STA.
At 25% sag that becomes 472mm reach and 77.1° STA

Personally at 5'10" I wouldn't want to go much if any longer reach or steeper seat tube than that, if anything I'd prefer a touch shorter and slacker.
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