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flag Snake-Plisskin
Posted: Nov 30, 2020 at 17:01 Quote
At what point does a trail bike become an all mountain bike? Is it a shorter stem and riser bars? Is it anything over 120mm travel? Is it 2.5” tires or bigger? Flats vs, clip less? 34mm fork or 36mm stanchions? Or are they the same damn thing with different names?

Down country or enduro just different ends of the all mountain spectrum? Or down country a beefy XC and enduro and light DH?


What’s your take on the name designations?
flag HaggeredShins
Posted: Nov 30, 2020 at 18:31 Quote
Everything important about a mountain bike can be quantified--so why categorize? Good marketing terms for noobs, pretty meaningless for experienced riders.

Sure, we can group bikes into a qualitative taxonomy based on near similarities but all bikes are quantitatively different and will meet our expectations differently. Anyone who's been riding for a while knows geo, travel, and suspension platform matter. Meeting criteria within these and balancing the inevitable compromises for each to match the terrain we ride is the best process, not picking from groups and crossing our fingers... and at that point who gives a hoot about enduro, AM, etc.?

Or you could just pick what looks cool and roll the dice. That's what I do, usually.
flag HaggeredShins
Posted: Nov 30, 2020 at 18:36 Quote
JustAnotherRiderHere wrote:
Labels are mean.

QFP: QFT in 2020

This is the best answer, OP
flag anoplura
Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 1:29 Quote
My dumb opinion:

Do you ride trails that you could hike, but are longer than you want to hike? You want a "Trail Bike".

Do you ride trails that typically involve uphill suffering - often involving walking and pushing your bike - just so that you can enjoy the steep, intense, downhill part? You probably want an "All-Mountain Bike".
flag jeremy3220
O+ FL
Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 6:41 Quote
AM commonly means a bike straddling the line between trail and enduro.
flag Snake-Plisskin
Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 7:26 Quote
jeremy3220 wrote:
AM commonly means a bike straddling the line between trail and enduro.

Like a Trance X.
flag 8tom8
Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 13:11 Quote
Snake-Plisskin wrote:
At what point does a trail bike become an all mountain bike? Is it a shorter stem and riser bars? Is it anything over 120mm travel? Is it 2.5” tires or bigger? Flats vs, clip less? 34mm fork or 36mm stanchions? Or are they the same damn thing with different names?

Down country or enduro just different ends of the all mountain spectrum? Or down country a beefy XC and enduro and light DH?


What’s your take on the name designations?
it’s all a load of bs you could class pretty much everything as ‘enduro’. All the manufacturers just label it as that if you ask me i would base the bike off the geo and often that tells you what it’s designed for
flag nematon785
Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 19:32 Quote
Tire weight and tread type tells the whole story. I know it when some goon on a hard tail with dh tires blows me away while carrying a handle of whiskey half gone in one hand...after dark. He is enduro. Im xc.
flag njcbps
Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 22:33 Quote
New Canyon Spectral would apply:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-2021-canyon-spectral-29-cf-80.html

Seems like once head tube angles are 65 degrees, and front suspension is >140 or 150mm, then it's jumped from Trail to All Mountain. But there aren't hard and fast rules.
flag meSSican
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Posted: Dec 2, 2020 at 18:47 Quote
I remember when AM was the tag before Enduro showed up. Seems like the AM bike or aggressive trail bikes are making a comeback. Seems like the new Sentinel V2 blurs the AM and Enduro line. The new Commencal Meta TR is for sure an AM bike. Some 130 bikes can descend with others.
I see a few bike brands overlapping bikes such as Spesh with the new Stumpy-Stumpy Evo-Enduro. Or the new Canyon Spectral which is close to the Strive. I see it as brands are re-shuffling the deck and finding new ways to sell bikes. I am a fan as sometimes full enduro is too much and trail isn't enough.
flag m1dg3t
Posted: Dec 3, 2020 at 3:46 Quote
JustAnotherRiderHere wrote:
Labels are mean.

I don't know about labels being "mean" but we can definitely do with less of them.


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