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New EX 1700 vs New Deemax

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flag DG370
Posted: Jan 27, 2021 at 12:19 Quote
Anyone had good experience time on the above 27.5 wheels?

I’m on the fence, I like the spoke style of the DTs, owned EX511s before which were nice and tough.

Currently got 29er Deemaxs which I like the UST and I think the hubs are better than the DT 350s?

Which would you guys/gals pick given the choice?
flag Danzzz88
Posted: Jan 27, 2021 at 15:16 Quote
I wouldn't get Mavic anything, they build good looking lighteweight wheels but it's all proprietary stuff, you damage something or want to upgrade you can't just replace anything on them easily, you'd have to warranty them.. Nothing special about their hubs, proprietary spokes and rims that if you bend or dent can't substitute with another off the shelf part. So yea Mavics are decent wheels but a use and chuck away part as far as I'm concerned. Dt swiss hubs are bomb proof, have better bearing and quality etc than Mavic anyway. For the price of Deemax you could get some lightbicycle carbon rims laced up to some dt 350 hubs..No contest imo. Plus I saw my mate absolutely total his Mavic back wheel when he cased a jump, it broke like plastic. I've never broke any of my wheel builds.
flag joelsman
Posted: Jan 27, 2021 at 16:11 Quote
Mavic rims used to be the goto, but their hubs have always sucked. Dt 350 hubs are much better, or hope.
flag ecnonasinoslednam
Posted: Jan 27, 2021 at 16:15 Quote
+1 for DT Swiss. It's worth checking what ratchet is specced in the rear hub. If it's 18 you probably need to factor in an upgrade to 36 or 54.
flag DG370
Posted: Jan 27, 2021 at 23:35 Quote
The EX 1700 come with 36 ratchet.

I can get the Deemax for 600 on offer, the EXs cost similar retail, that was part of the decision making too.

My older 29er Deemax hubs have been great, being the newer design QRM+, I know the previous one were shocking for sure.

You do get spare spokes etc with the Deemax, but what are the like to tension up compared to normal spokes?
flag TibZ
Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 1:15 Quote
I have the EX1700 in 27.5 since 6 months or so (when they were released) on a Jeffsy, I like them a lot. They tick all the boxes in my opinion: strong, reliable, easy to service, beautiful, not too heavy. And not so expensive neither, at least here, in Germany.
They indeed come with 36 ratchet system hub, which is a good compromise of engagement, reliability, weight and pedal kickback.
The sound is fine too, not silent but not super loud neither. Just normal / average in this regard.
flag Ploutre
Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 1:58 Quote
FYI, the current Mavic hubs are similar to DT, as they use a similar ratchet system (ID 360). It's very different from the previous ITS4 which used the classic pawls system.

The ID360 is a bit louder than DT's ratchet, with a deeper sound. It has 40 teeth, so it's quite close to DT's 36 teeth ratchet.

As for reliability, DTs are pretty much bomb proof, but I have no idea for the current Mavics...


I suppose the safe bet would be the DT EX1700, but I'll definitely consider the deemax next time I need a set of wheels. I have a pair of basic Mavic 29" wheels on the commuter bike (as I kept braking spokes on the original wheels...), and I got to say they're pretty sound so far. Hubs are really smooth, and the sound is nice.
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