Propain Dreckspatz - 20" Kids Hardtail

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hotformullet (Feb 16, 2017 at 6:44)

Really good to see some properly thought out kids' bike on the market. I always feel a bit daft riding around on a 160mm AM rig alongside my 3 year old on his clunker that feels like it weighs nearly as much.

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Boardlife69 (Feb 16, 2017 at 8:17)

Ive been looking at their kids FS bike but damn that CS looks freakishly long. Back tire is waaay back.

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pakleni (Feb 16, 2017 at 8:28)

I'm just waiting for a similar bike with 16" wheels. Kids don't have enough strength to use v-brakes on longer descents.

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chmod (Feb 17, 2017 at 0:24)

@pakleni: I put some old magura HS33 on the bike. Helps ALOT! Also possible to get the lever very close to the bars.

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gibbon-on-an-orange (Feb 16, 2017 at 9:11)

When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a plus-bike hard tail with an enormously large seat. Need to learn to read the titles first...

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jacobite321 FL (Feb 16, 2017 at 9:30)

Don't worry about it, it's a bloke thing. I can't read a whole article without my mind wandering. It's a bit like the infamous 'man-look'.... apparently when you look for something, say on the fridge, it works better if you move other shit out the way !! what the f*cks that all about?

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jacobite321 FL (Feb 16, 2017 at 9:31)

It is a massive seat though ??

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fifred (Feb 16, 2017 at 15:17)

I know it will never happen but fork company's need to make some folks that actually fit the wheels on these kinds of bikes or even 24inch bikes. I mean i know it sounds wired but i cant stand a huge fork gap and you would kinda hope that for the money you pay for one of these bikes that the forlks would look right. not hating i think its great that they are making kids bikes just though it was worth mentioning.

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Leggsington (Feb 16, 2017 at 8:06)

For my daughter I modified an Isla Beinn 20 Small with riser bars from an old Cannondale (wider and higher than originals) and 20'' Schwalbe Black Jacks for more grip and bounce and she still fits it at age 9. Shes pretty tall.

Its a nippy bike and handles small jumps too. No shocks but at that age its good practice and makes lifting the front end lighter

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Leggsington (Feb 16, 2017 at 8:10)

..thats not to say I wouldnt mind her testing one of these ..go Philis Atwill !!

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ziolek79 FL (Feb 16, 2017 at 7:36)

Yes, thats is good to see bikes designed for kids, with lower weight, suspenion that works under 20kg rider etc.
Thats for sure. But because of small market for such a bikes - prices are too high imo (for the spec). I hope that will change soon :-)

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CornishKiwi (Feb 16, 2017 at 7:47)

I have my daughter on an Isla Bike.....light and small everything for little hands, No suspension tho, but then she's not ready for the parks just yet at 5.
£350 for a 20" bike.....not bad I reckon
These look the bomb tho..

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WAKIdesigns (Feb 16, 2017 at 15:07)

There's one thing that propain and commencal get when it comes to kids bikes: short chainstays. Good luck teaching your kids to bunnyhop with all the other stuff on the market...

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chmod (Feb 17, 2017 at 0:28)

indeed, but on the trail it gives confidence on higher speeds.

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rabidmonkfish (Feb 16, 2017 at 17:23)

was about to say the price is a bit high but a carbon suspension fork is decent. it looks like it should last. saddle is far too big though no?

oh and surely it wont climb well and will not get over any bumps on the trails with such small wheels (sarcasm)

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jacobite321 FL (Feb 16, 2017 at 9:21)

My lads have had a propain frechdax 20" for 3 years, it is a really really good well made bike, I can't praise it enough. If these are anywhere near as good then it's a fair price i'd say. How much do they weigh?

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jacobite321 FL (Feb 16, 2017 at 9:27)

just looked it up...8.6kg

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Ozziefish (Feb 17, 2017 at 1:36)

Can we please have a long term test with Vernon Felton using this as his daily for a year?

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stubb (Feb 17, 2017 at 1:39)

£1600 for the kids 24" fully its still too much we need to set up lend lease for kids bikes they cost way too much and grow out of them too quick also

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tuhuramtb FL (Feb 16, 2017 at 12:06)

That looks a cracking bike. Would be interested to see the specs on those forks.

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CptObius (Feb 16, 2017 at 12:55)

100mm travel, rebound/compression adjust, air spring, carbon lowers, 1 1/8" shaft, damping adjusted to low rider weights, QR axle