o.k. firstly, someone tell me what (non upside down) forks have rubber boots over the lowers???..what would be the point....so they are definitely upside down,,everyone agreed on that?..o.k. now look at the dropouts,, look exactly the same as shivers, look at the lower crown, exactly the same as shivers, and the uppers, the same width/colour as 05 shivers. someone has just modified them by putting rubber boots over the stanctions to protect them, in stead of the usual, stanction guards.