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thy ran the ex1750 wheels partially for the flat prevention of the rims due to softness, and they have an amazingly good strength to weight ratio. Plus when you can get a new set of wheels for each run, I would run a softer/lighter rim too... I have dented mine a few times, and have used them for a year of hard riding with various terrain, great wheels but my more intense riding was a little much for the 5.1d's I tihnk I just need a harder rim material, I want to rebuild my wheels with the new rims the ex 500's which are harder alloy than the 5.1d's were. My deemax's also great wheels. but the deemax's the pro's use are a softer rim compound to help prevent flats, so they increase denting in the rim itself. But the production one's for everyone else are bomb proof. I have a set from 2004 that I recently rebuilt the hubs on, and they are still true as ever and roll great. with little to no maintenance except for 1 rebuild in 6+years.
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the rims mavic pro's use are not different than the ones they sell. i assure you. and once again, arizona eh? lots of desert, no rain?
you might also be getting lucky with some less than harsh conditions
the fact that you say your rims are still true as ever is clear evidence of this
and the fact that your extremely ruinable freehub body is still good six years later does also.
vps shore, sorry you find me offensive. but you should read above as well
you might also be getting lucky with some less than harsh conditions
the fact that you say your rims are still true as ever is clear evidence of this
and the fact that your extremely ruinable freehub body is still good six years later does also.
vps shore, sorry you find me offensive. but you should read above as well
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I just moved here from Durango CO, and Missoula MT before that. and yes they are indeed different. They make a race version, you can even find a video on here that states this fact. They have a soft version, and a harder version. look it up. and as far as rain, it rained tuesday, and flooded the city. what does that have to do with this? the riding here is very rocky, and pretty rough. some people take care to true their rims when something happens, my rims roll great, they have been trued up, but they are damn solid.
hmmm, a need to get rid of my demo and get some serious cash haha 
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why? so they can not match? cuz they aren't the same colour
or so you can have the gayest wheels on the planet on your bike.
seriously i've worked on lots of those wheels, for years, on racers bikes, on freeriders bikes.
i can honestly say they are shit.
the hubs come loose probably every three runs if you're shredding, despite loctite or brake clean to get the lube out and create some friction
the spokes seize on the nipple bushings as you try to tension them, despite lubrication, because it can't get in there
the tool they give you for the nipples is plastic and strips right away, as is the hub adjust tool, which breaks almost as fast.
the rims don't really hold on tubeless dependably enough, or pro's would actually run tubeless on them. but they don't.
once the rim gets damaged just a little the nipples are no longer able to adjust to accomadate for loss of tension and bottom out.
if you magically get some life out of them, and don't slightly damage the rim. you will inevitably start to break spokes as you try to keep them up to tension.
i must admit though, this summer i finally realized their only useful purpose.
a pro racers wheel. because they're light.
because you work on their wheels every two runs, you can hopefully keep them from falling apart.
and when you destroy them every weekend, you can get them rebuilt at the races by mavicoh i just remembered, they have another purpose. rich people who don't ride hard
they are the chris king no threadset of the wheel world
or so you can have the gayest wheels on the planet on your bike.
seriously i've worked on lots of those wheels, for years, on racers bikes, on freeriders bikes.
i can honestly say they are shit.
the hubs come loose probably every three runs if you're shredding, despite loctite or brake clean to get the lube out and create some friction
the spokes seize on the nipple bushings as you try to tension them, despite lubrication, because it can't get in there
the tool they give you for the nipples is plastic and strips right away, as is the hub adjust tool, which breaks almost as fast.
the rims don't really hold on tubeless dependably enough, or pro's would actually run tubeless on them. but they don't.
once the rim gets damaged just a little the nipples are no longer able to adjust to accomadate for loss of tension and bottom out.
if you magically get some life out of them, and don't slightly damage the rim. you will inevitably start to break spokes as you try to keep them up to tension.
i must admit though, this summer i finally realized their only useful purpose.
a pro racers wheel. because they're light.
because you work on their wheels every two runs, you can hopefully keep them from falling apart.
and when you destroy them every weekend, you can get them rebuilt at the races by mavicoh i just remembered, they have another purpose. rich people who don't ride hard
they are the chris king no threadset of the wheel world
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The Deemaxs I had worked just fine. The freehubs were easy to work on, the spokes never seized, and the hubs never came loose. Maybe I was just lucky. I've had three pairs in the last 12 years and they were all great. Much like any other bike part, if you take care of them they will last a long time.
It sounds like you have a lot of animosity towards bike products. Instead of lashing out against components that seem to have mysteriously wronged you, maybe you should just go use what you're happy with and leave what makes others happy alone?
It sounds like you have a lot of animosity towards bike products. Instead of lashing out against components that seem to have mysteriously wronged you, maybe you should just go use what you're happy with and leave what makes others happy alone?
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it seems you were lucky
or more likely, you ride gently in a non abusive environment. lets see. mill valley california? sounds pretty gentle
dude, these are my honest experiences with bike parts. i don't go up here and randomly talk shit about stuff that doesn't deserve it.
and just to be clear, i maintain my bike to perfection at all times. and have used just about every bike part worth trying. and see them in use on many other peoples bikes.
we ride for real
i'm hoping that by offering feedback other than the usual glowing reports fueled by marketing and sponsorship. that people can make a more informed decision. you don't have to listen to me. but you've also got no right to censor me.
and those who aren't interested in paying huge cash for ill conceived product that has proven to not stand up to real use, possibly a bit abusive, but riding none the less. can choose to listen to me.
many other wheels are a better choice. isn't that what its about. choice?
so, suck it.
or more likely, you ride gently in a non abusive environment. lets see. mill valley california? sounds pretty gentle
dude, these are my honest experiences with bike parts. i don't go up here and randomly talk shit about stuff that doesn't deserve it.
and just to be clear, i maintain my bike to perfection at all times. and have used just about every bike part worth trying. and see them in use on many other peoples bikes.
we ride for real
i'm hoping that by offering feedback other than the usual glowing reports fueled by marketing and sponsorship. that people can make a more informed decision. you don't have to listen to me. but you've also got no right to censor me.
and those who aren't interested in paying huge cash for ill conceived product that has proven to not stand up to real use, possibly a bit abusive, but riding none the less. can choose to listen to me.
many other wheels are a better choice. isn't that what its about. choice?
so, suck it.
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Mill Valley is where mountain biking as we all know it was invented. Look it up sometime.
I'm not trying to censor you, but it's obvious that you're trolling my comments, so I was just wondering if you could lay off. There must be greater injustices in the world than my personal opinions.
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yes that may be, but despite that. you must also admit that riding there is far more gentle than in some other places. so don't judge my honest experiences as me being stupid. because i'm not, if you really were a pro mechanic you should be able to tell.
so as long as you keep going on saying product x is awesome no problems at all. i'll just have to keep things honest with our experiences up here.
sorry you feel singled out
but you are, because you're the most loud mouth opinionated guy out here. besides me, and i might have to disagree with some of the things you say out loud
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I like how you have definitions for everything. Like how I should know that you're not stupid because I'm a professional mechanic.
First of all, I never said you were an idiot. You're very annoying, but you're not an idiot. I respect your opinions, sorry I have had different experiences than you. I have to ask though, was it entirely necessary to have such a long-winded retort to my simple comment about needing Deemax wheels on the bike? I feel like I'm being yelled at by some random hobo on the street, or an "old timer" in a bike shop who thinks that their word is law because they've been riding for longer.
First of all, I never said you were an idiot. You're very annoying, but you're not an idiot. I respect your opinions, sorry I have had different experiences than you. I have to ask though, was it entirely necessary to have such a long-winded retort to my simple comment about needing Deemax wheels on the bike? I feel like I'm being yelled at by some random hobo on the street, or an "old timer" in a bike shop who thinks that their word is law because they've been riding for longer.
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that's not a definition.
and it certainly wasn't necessary
but i like the world to know that deemax wheels aren't all that despite what mass sponsorship would like them to believe
and yes, i do have to yell.
you've been very stubborn in the past
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I have to say bigtard, I found your ramblings initially when I was looking up the Easton Havoc wheel and now again you are making asinine comments on wheels. Even if you do have a valid point, which you probably don't, it would be lost in a sea of poor grammar and strange carriage returns. I am not sure what your reasons for getting riled up over wheels is derived from but I would like to formally request you stop commenting on these topics.
I have never spent any considerable time on a set of Deemax wheels, however the ones I have ridden seem to be some of the nicest wheels I have every played with. Possibly not worth the money in some situations but they would look good on this bike.
I think somebody needs to chill out, I've had deemax wheels on many bikes for the last 6 years and never had an issue and all I do is use them for freeride, and there's this killer thing called routine maintenance that works well I've heard, what's the big deal if you have to tension your spokes after a hard ride, higher end products require more care that's not a new thing.
And what did you expect after a world cup caliper run with these wheels? Why did the Syndicate run ex 1750 all mountain wheels during races? Because they're light and stiff, just like the mavics, of course they won't stand up to continuous punishment no wheel can not just deemaxs.
Lets all take a breather on this one and remember it's a wheel, they all roll. Or just tell the race team with those wheels to be smoother and maybe your opinion will change, for the sake of these forums I hope so.